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Offline Guppy35

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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #60 on: April 11, 2011, 01:38:43 AM »
LOL most of us who've been around 10+ years wouldn't say we've peaked.  The learning curve is never ending.  For every day where everything goes right, there will be just as many that make you wonder if you'll ever get it.

Relax, enjoy.  You aren't really dying, and the best way to keep learning, is to keep upping and having at it  :aok
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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #61 on: April 11, 2011, 01:42:40 AM »
Hoff you need to maneuver more.  You don't seem to understand all the geometry going on...  You've gotten better, so take a break from pushing yourself for days 11 and 12 and try to see how the above BFM I linked to are going on in your films.  Many of the deaths you took tonight, and kills you missed, could've gone better if you were less eager for pulling your gunsight on target.
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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #62 on: April 11, 2011, 02:51:23 AM »
Day 11:

   Today was another lesson in humility. I met up with BigRat in the TA and got destroyed in rolling scissors practice. I still have no clue how I get beat so badly in rolling scissors. BigRat explained the philosophy of it and I understand that, but it just doesn't work for me in practice. After the TA session I went to the MA and fought AGAINST the Muppets. I started out messing around in the 110, but when I started upping in the 109K and actually tried It pretty much felt like this:  :bhead :bhead :bhead. Granted, I was outnumbered most of the time, but I still got my #@$ handed to me. I'm getting more and more frustrated because I feel like I've peaked and can't progress further. The last 3 days have been the same, I can pick people (woohoo), but if I get into a fight, I lose. Hopefully tomorrow is better.

Good: Nothing
Bad: Everything
Film: None



Don't get discouraged. Even if you feel like you've peaked, you're still learning SOMEthing from every sortie and every death (even if it's just 'don't do that next time'), and it'll all start coming together the more you play.

I've only been playing about 3 months, so I don't have enough experience to really try and give advice, but one thing I think is important to bear in mind is that fully 50% of air combat is a mental game...

Use your brain as often as you use your joystick and you'll notice a big improvement!
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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #63 on: April 12, 2011, 12:05:51 AM »
Day 12:

    :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead Only kills I got today were HO or front quarter shots. A couple were post merge but still front quarter. I lost every single time I got into a fight and didn't learn anything from it. My defensive maneuvers were utter crap today as well. Worst day thus far.

Good:
Nothing
Bad: Everything
Film: None

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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #64 on: April 12, 2011, 02:16:36 AM »
Day 12:

     Only kills I got today were HO or front quarter shots. A couple were post merge but still front quarter. I lost every single time I got into a fight and didn't learn anything from it. My defensive maneuvers were utter crap today as well. Worst day thus far.

Good:
Nothing
Bad: Everything
Film: None


I certainly haven't watched every single video posted. But I think it would be these type of Videos that you certainly should be posting. More times then not, It is when you are "losing" that there is the most to learn.

Just a thought

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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #65 on: April 12, 2011, 02:37:18 AM »

I certainly haven't watched every single video posted. But I think it would be these type of Videos that you certainly should be posting. More times then not, It is when you are "losing" that there is the most to learn.

Just a thought


It wasn't anything worth watching or that I haven't already posted. I kept losing scissors fights and got killed by a 262 a few times.

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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2011, 06:26:45 AM »
Ya but if you post a scissor fight that you lost, someone might point out where you lost it in the scissor and WHY. Then you CAN learn from the film.

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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #67 on: April 12, 2011, 08:26:48 AM »
Ya but if you post a scissor fight that you lost, someone might point out where you lost it in the scissor and WHY. Then you CAN learn from the film.


I've posted more than one already and asked for comments on it but have yet to receive any.

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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2011, 09:32:08 AM »
Which film has the scissors? It can't be the one with you in a 109 getting chased out to the CV can it?

2 reasons because I commented on that one, and 2 that wasn't anything close to a scissors.

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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #69 on: April 12, 2011, 09:41:32 AM »
Which film has the scissors? It can't be the one with you in a 109 getting chased out to the CV can it?

2 reasons because I commented on that one, and 2 that wasn't anything close to a scissors.


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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #70 on: April 12, 2011, 10:39:08 AM »

It wasn't anything worth watching or that I haven't already posted. I kept losing scissors fights and got killed by a 262 a few times.


Well the 262 guy is no slouch  :aok


Look Hoff, your timing is off man also you are not getting "skinny" when you should. Your angles are ok but you're pressenting your profile when defensive, this just makes tough shots easier. You cannot make anything easier against those that are pretty good because they will connect  :aok


I'm doubting the noob claim cause your fundamentals are pretty good. You fly like you have about 500-1000 hours under your belt, or previous flight sim experience. Either way you should look up the vox290 crew in the DA. You will be PWNED but you will learn more. Also anytime the muppets are in the DA I'm sure they'll welcome you to join the duels! As always to anyone if you want some 1v1 time and some help I am more than happy to give you a hand!   :salute



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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #71 on: April 12, 2011, 10:58:17 AM »
I'm new to actual flight sims, the only flying games I have played are the battlefield series, which isn't really a flight sim. I just learn really quickly and do my research watching videos and such. I'll definitely take you up on the 1v1 offer whenever you get a chance. I've been trying to fly against Muppets lately because even though flying with Muppets is fun, it's a crutch to my learning. Gotta fight the best to become the best. It's just frustrating as hell. I may get really really frustrated  :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead and might even be vocal about it, but it's just my way of venting so that I can carry on and keep practicing.

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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #72 on: April 12, 2011, 09:36:46 PM »
Day 8:

   Today I got to fly with two members of Army of Muppets, m00t, and SunsFan. I got to wing up with m00t in MA and as he mentioned he told me that I was being too aggressive and thus becoming an easy target. After flying with him for a while he had to go so I managed to meet with SunsFan in the DA for some 1v1 practice. I learned a lot from him and managed to learn how to merge decently, but still have problems after that. He was impressing me with some move he was doing at the top of the rolling scissors that would pretty much give him a shot on me every time. I didn't know how to defend against it nor how to do it myself. He said he'd be able to explain it with the film, so hopefully whenever he gets a chance he can drop in here or maybe one of you can answer it. Overall it was a really productive day. Thanks a ton to m00t and Sunsfan. I also met BigRat in the TA. He was busy with squad practice but I did manage to set up a time to train with him. m00t and SunsFan also said they were willing to help out whenever they have free time. Again, thanks a ton for taking the time to help me out, I really appreciate it. Hopefully it wont take too long before I am proficient enough to know what to do and what I do wrong without needing someone to tell me. The films for today are of most (I accidentally hit a button or something and deleted one or two of the films) of the merges between me and SunsFan in the DA.

Good:
Learning, Merge
Bad: Post-Merge, SA, Committing Too Much
Film: One - Two - Three

I got home late tonight so I only got a chance to look at the first films.

The scissors you did was just an even mechanical move, very predictable. Roll, pull, roll the other way pull, roll back, pull and so on. A scissor move is to make it tough for the bad guy to get an easy shot, and to create an over shoot. You can do NIETHER if your not watching the bad guy. Suns broke off and was typing to you before you knew he had broken off.

You MUST watch him, and make your pull before he does, even if it just a bit before he does, every little bit helps to get you behind him and force him to over shoot. Also as you pass each other in the scissor you will have a bit of a shot opportunity. Watching your enemy ALL the time will help you one, maybe get a guns solution for a quick shot, and two you will be able to tell when you will be in his guns area. When en you pass into his guns area, you must get "skinny". To do this you roll your plane to give him the smallest profile to shoot at.

If he has a possible shot...which means your behind in the scissors btw  :D  instead of giving him a full top profile to shoot at, a quick roll to point a wing tip at him, and then roll back to finish that turn in the Scissor will make it much harder for even a good player to hit you.

In the first merge, you "followed" him around. Point your nose in front of the enemy plane (lead pursuit) to close and get ahead of him. Following someone gives them time to recover from a bad move, or think of some way to bait you. Push the attack, but don't over push by doing something stupid. As far as the rest of the film, Suns was right, the first to drop his nose is the one giving up the advantage, but you MUST watch for it. When he drops his you should have chopped your throttle, ruddered into his turn and got your nose pointed out ahead of him and pour the power back on.DOn't give him time to get separation/room to set up a move.

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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #73 on: April 12, 2011, 09:47:44 PM »
Coupla things:
close range means that planes with wing mounted guns will often enough have much more trouble shooting your plane if it's rolled perpendicular to theirs.  Unless their convergence is set that close.

You want to make your scissors as Fugitive describes: custom-fitted to screw with your bogie's timing.  Also as he says, don't be predictable:  add some random width and height to your scissors.
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Re: Diary of a Noob
« Reply #74 on: April 13, 2011, 12:33:24 AM »
Day 13:

   Too busy with classes, dreamhack, and NASL (yea I'm a starcraft nerd) to get more than two or three sorties in. Not much to say about today.

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Film:
None