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Offline LLogann

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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #75 on: April 06, 2011, 09:36:17 AM »
Truer words may have never been typed!    :cheers:

Anyway, I think the fact that the WWI continues to draw any interest at all with the way it is set up is a testament to the possible popularity of that era in flight simming!  :cheers:
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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #76 on: April 06, 2011, 09:44:24 AM »
LLogan thanks for the support but if something merits notice I'll take care of it or a moderator will. If wab can't abide people disagreeing with him and feels clever posting adolescent insults I'll just assume it's the issues he claims not to have. It doesn't bother me.

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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #77 on: April 06, 2011, 09:53:21 AM »
It was a bit of a troll wasn't it.........   :uhoh  Sorry Brother!

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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #78 on: April 06, 2011, 10:01:29 AM »
Would you like it if FLS started saying "Dear FatBoy" ?

LoL.  Hey, I am fat; and FLS is a poodle.  Technically both desigations are accurate.   :lol

On the other hand, most of my weight is already dropped and I'll be done by May.  When do you get off the needle?


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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #79 on: April 06, 2011, 10:13:00 AM »
You know I'm just trying to be a nut buster.  I hope one day you can forgive my bad attitude Sir!   :cheers:  Perhaps even have a drink! 

LoL.  Hey, I am fat; and FLS is a poodle.  Technically both desigations are accurate.   :lol

On the other hand, most of my weight is already dropped and I'll be done by May.  When do you get off the needle?


(Sorry BnZs.  I'm done with these 2 tools now.   :rofl)

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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #80 on: April 06, 2011, 01:28:16 PM »
WWI arena would be popular if the WWII arenas were closed.
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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #81 on: April 06, 2011, 04:23:31 PM »
WWI arena would be popular if the WWII arenas were closed.

Now you're thinking outside the box.  :lol

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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #82 on: April 06, 2011, 04:29:06 PM »
WWI arena would be popular if the WWII arenas were closed.

The suble (and not so subtle) hostility some players have towards WWI developments is pathological, mean-spirited in the utmost, and has not he slightest reason behind it as far as I can tell.
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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #83 on: April 06, 2011, 04:36:01 PM »
The suble (and not so subtle) hostility some players have towards WWI developments is pathological, mean-spirited in the utmost, and has not he slightest reason behind it as far as I can tell.

Well, the thought process for some seems to be simply that since there is not unlimited development capability, the man hours spent doing stuff with WWI could be (in their minds) better spent on stuff for the WWII portion of the game.

I'm personally excited at the modifications made to the damage model for the WWI planes, and can't wait to see that make it into the WWII portion of the game.  For that capability alone, it was worth them doing the WWI stuff, IMO.

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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #84 on: April 06, 2011, 04:38:59 PM »
One thing that I have yet to see mentioned in reference to the DR1 vs Camel is that the Camel fly's considerably different at 10k.

Now I'd strongly agree with anything that would get players interested enough to climb to that alt.
(hint big silvery gas bag with cabin hung below) Ideally it would have waypoints like a task group, user mannable guns like a task group, and waypoints like a task group.

Like Task Groups in WWII arena's it would be a fight starter, and if it cruised at 10 or 12k, well the planes would come up to meet it, defenders would hang out around it, and you'd have your 10k furball where the camel has a chance to beat the DR1.

And of course adding more depth to the current setup would keep players in the arena longer, increasing numbers, increasing fights, etc etc.

It doesn't take a lot. Last year at AH con 6 of us logged into the WWI arena to kill an hour before the evil Claw Mission. By  the time we left the WWI arena had over 50 people in it.

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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #85 on: April 06, 2011, 04:58:45 PM »
One thing that I have yet to see mentioned in reference to the DR1 vs Camel is that the Camel fly's considerably different at 10k.

Like Task Groups in WWII arena's it would be a fight starter, and if it cruised at 10 or 12k, well the planes would come up to meet it, defenders would hang out around it, and you'd have your 10k furball where the camel has a chance to beat the DR1.

I see no evidence this "altitude optimism" has any substance to it. The Dr1 is much tougher and more stable. Alt would not change this. The Dr1 apparently has more lift in relation to weight. Higher alt would not change this. The only thing that would change is *if* the Camel's rotary retains performance at alt alot better than the Dr1's, and I don't see that happening.

In general the plane that handles and turns better at low alt is even better at high alt, because the low IAS does't bother it as much, unless it is at a power disadvantage. Since both engines are normally aspirated, I don't see the Dr1 ending up at a large disadvantage over 10K.

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Re: So heres whats wrong with the WWI...
« Reply #86 on: April 06, 2011, 06:58:41 PM »
You don't need to speculate BnZ, you could just have a 10k fight with somebody. Use the TA air spawn to save climbing time.