Boot people who have latency greater than 1.5 sec from the arena

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It's just funny how some people will only warp when you get on their six.  rest of the time you will see them flying around normally.  then they blame their internet connection.  that's what happened yesterday at the port, i got shot down by somebody that was in front of me then reappeared behind me. 

semp

basically due to the fact that as you get closer more info is being transferred

[LLogann]

I do want to say that I am not on a Lagger soapbox, but......  On a decent connection, think of diving into a furball, even some decent boxes will get a little lag.  Now think the bad connection... And the guy on the six....  Even though there is less to draw, the lag problem increases.  I'll be the first one to femaleDog a warper when I'm 1k out but I try to give them the benefit of the doubt. 

It's just funny how some people will only warp when you get on their six.  rest of the time you will see them flying around normally.  then they blame their internet connection.  that's what happened yesterday at the port, i got shot down by somebody that was in front of me then reappeared behind me. 

semp

[guncrasher]

I do want to say that I am not on a Lagger soapbox, but......  On a decent connection, think of diving into a furball, even some decent boxes will get a little lag.  Now think the bad connection... And the guy on the six....  Even though there is less to draw, the lag problem increases.  I'll be the first one to femaleDog a warper when I'm 1k out but I try to give them the benefit of the doubt. 

sorry llogan, not when it happens everytime you or somebody else gets on their six only.  there's lots of people here with satellite connection but they dont warp like that.  when it happens only at specific times (when you get behind them) then it's not the connection to blame.

semp

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sorry llogan, not when it happens everytime you or somebody else gets on their six only.  there's lots of people here with satellite connection but they dont warp like that.  when it happens only at specific times (when you get behind them) then it's not the connection to blame.

semp

ehh....i've been here many moons and haven't seen what you are talking about, ya Ive seen people warp behind me, but I don't assume they are cheating....as a matter of fact Ive NEVER seen a Cheat ingame...that is what you are eluding to right.

[Melvin]

Several months ago I warped bad on ReDevil2 (I think that's who it was anyway.) He told me he was running film and was gonna send it in. I explained to him that I was running wireless and that he should hold on a sec. I re-logged and was able to hold a stable enough connection for a couple more good fights. Nothing more needed to be said.

I've since switched to DSL.

Last week I lost UDP while in the AvA. I warped a bit, re-logged and was good to go the rest of the night.

My point is that these things happen on occasion. My beef is with people that, when told they are warping, basically tell you to get stuffed and won't even bother trying to fix the issue. They know that they have an unfair advantage and will fully exploit it any chance they get. It's like having a handful of extra pieces in a game of chess.

Of course, it is just a game after all....

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Several months ago I warped bad on ReDevil2 (I think that's who it was anyway.) He told me he was running film and was gonna send it in. I explained to him that I was running wireless and that he should hold on a sec. I re-logged and was able to hold a stable enough connection for a couple more good fights. Nothing more needed to be said.

I've since switched to DSL.

Last week I lost UDP while in the AvA. I warped a bit, re-logged and was good to go the rest of the night.

My point is that these things happen on occasion. My beef is with people that, when told they are warping, basically tell you to get stuffed and won't even bother trying to fix the issue. They know that they have an unfair advantage and will fully exploit it any chance they get. It's like having a handful of extra pieces in a game of chess.

Of course, it is just a game after all....

they DO NOT have an unfair advantage 

[Melvin]

they DO NOT have an unfair advantage 

Ummm, I'm about to shoot you down and you disappear and the re-appear on my six.

No advantage there.

Riiiight. 

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Ummm, I'm about to shoot you down and you disappear and the re-appear on my six.

No advantage there.

Riiiight. 

lol  that just don't happen very often..... and to them every one else is warping

like I said I have a crap connection and when I warp it looks like every one else is(and rebooting does nothing)....its not rocket science

[Ardy123]

lol  that just don't happen very often..... and to them every one else is warping

like I said I have a crap connection and when I warp it looks like every one else is(and rebooting does nothing)....its not rocket science

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For the most part I'm with ink on this about giving adv, except if the defender is trying to pull a defensive acm on the attacker and the attacker has a very laggy connection. The reason is because AH models the bullet strikes from the attackers screen, so its all about what the attacker sees, even if its 'wrong', and not what the defender sees.

[Melvin]

Well, I'll concede the advantage point to you guys I guess.

It's been so long since I've played with a crummy connection perhaps I've forgotten what it was like.

I still feel that hardcore habitual warpers should at least be given some sort of formal notice. By this I mean that they should be told that their connection isn't up to snuff and they might consider diagnosing the problem.

Most will simply scoff at it, but there may be some that are unaware of the issue and it might be the incentive needed to look into possible solutions.

BTW ink, I was in a furball last week against you and some of your buds. I never noticed any warpage from anybody in the area. 

[LLogann]

I know what he means, been there, seen that.  But even if it was a so called "cable puller," in my own "testing" I cannot recreate it, I'll always lose my host.  

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when I had comcast I never warped..yet had people tell me I warped....and one even came back and apologized to me said he reviewed the film and saw in the film I maneuvered while I was under his nose so he didn't see me maneuver and was surprised when I popped up on his 6....

what I find funny is the amount of "cheating" accusations that go on.

hell recently I was hearing a few people talk about a impervious 109...so I said to myself "well lets test that theory"  first hit pieces were falling off... he died very shortly after.

people don't understand how someone does something they automatically assume "cheat" ....you hear "no way could that 190 out turn my spit"  yet that 190 never "out turned" the spit just out "maneuvered"

I cant count the times Ive heard "no way can a hurri do that"  
  
comes down to the same thing, people don't understand something they ASSUME the worst, what is sad is all the so called "vets" that cry cheat quicker then the noobs.

Well, I'll concede the advantage point to you guys I guess.

It's been so long since I've played with a crummy connection perhaps I've forgotten what it was like.

I still feel that hardcore habitual warpers should at least be given some sort of formal notice. By this I mean that they should be told that their connection isn't up to snuff and they might consider diagnosing the problem.

Most will simply scoff at it, but there may be some that are unaware of the issue and it might be the incentive needed to look into possible solutions.

BTW ink, I was in a furball last week against you and some of your buds. I never noticed any warpage from anybody in the area. 

I hate the fact that I will get a warp, truly hate it, thankfully its not that bad.....

another reason I say its not an advantage, someone with a high ping time, such as myself.

will not always "see" the nme where he really is...for instance I pride my self on my merge, on how to avoid a HO on the merge, yet just yesterday I merge with a spit, it was clean, until he passed  me, then bullets started to hit my plane and he took out my engine oil      he was 400 behind me when the rounds started to hit.

did he cheat?  no not even close, my connection is just that bad
  

[ACE]

HTC would potentially loose money to this.  If the persons connection is lagging that bad and they still love to play but get kicked constantly they'll leave.

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[AWwrgwy]

It's just funny how some people will only warp when you get on their six.  rest of the time you will see them flying around normally.  then they blame their internet connection.  that's what happened yesterday at the port, i got shot down by somebody that was in front of me then reappeared behind me. 

semp

My router causes me to lose UDP. This causes me to warp. It happens as much when I'm on someones six as when someone is on mine.

When I lose UDP, the other planes continue going the same direction, sometimes underground, then everything disappears then pops back up 5k away or I'm getting shot.

My new router just boots me.


wrongway

[icepac]

Many people who warp when you get on your six are warping because that's the moment in the fight that they start crying on vox for help from friendlies.

Keying up vox has to interrupt the flight data in some way.