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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2011, 07:06:29 PM »
People love the one's they fly the most & have loyalties to their choice. I love them both, The Mossie is more forgiving to fly, but I get more kills landed in a 110(Love those air to air rkts). If I get shot in a Mossie (Wood Laminates) I watch my plane fly apart, even .50 calibers tear it up easily, IMO.  I actually bomb**** in the Mossie more than the 110, & use the 110 killin' bombers or close work around a field so if it gets thick I can run to ak. I usually get a few ftr kills.
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2011, 05:01:46 AM »
Our Mossie is actually pretty tough. It goes along with the pics of WW2 Mossies that made it home with giant holes in the rear fuselage, or the tails all shot up.  The 110 is decently tough, but the Mossie seems to take cannon rounds better.
People love the one's they fly the most & have loyalties to their choice. I love them both, The Mossie is more forgiving to fly, but I get more kills landed in a 110(Love those air to air rkts). If I get shot in a Mossie (Wood Laminates) I watch my plane fly apart, even .50 calibers tear it up easily, IMO.  I actually bomb**** in the Mossie more than the 110, & use the 110 killin' bombers or close work around a field so if it gets thick I can run to ak. I usually get a few ftr kills.
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2011, 07:08:36 AM »
 I don't see an ENY of 5 for the P-51D we have in the game. It is a bit tame it's performance it is the early version of the D pony. I would rather see it pushed up to the 1945 level and perked. The P-51D served in the Korean war and shoot down MiG-15s and did ground attack in Vietnam with the Republic of Vietnam forces.

 It served the Air National Guard into the early 1960s and was in service in Central America until 1989 and still wins Air races all over the world. There is a reason for it. No other prop fighter from WWII can say the same except the ME-109s they saw service with Spain into the 1960s with a British made motor. I want one of the super P-51s I saw on Dog fight lol.

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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2011, 06:36:59 PM »
Our Mossie is actually pretty tough. It goes along with the pics of WW2 Mossies that made it home with giant holes in the rear fuselage, or the tails all shot up.  The 110 is decently tough, but the Mossie seems to take cannon rounds better.

 I'm no historian or objective analyzer, I just know it falls apart more quickly that other twins I fly, "In Game". Just my experience.
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2011, 07:56:53 PM »
I'm no historian or objective analyzer, I just know it falls apart more quickly that other twins I fly, "In Game". Just my experience.
The Mosquito is tougher than the Bf110.  Wood took damage better than aluminum and it is modeled in AH as being tougher.

Example, it takes two Hispano hits to the tail cone to take off a Bf110's tail, three to take off a Mosquito Mk VI's tail.
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2011, 08:14:00 PM »
Then I ain't flyin' it right.  :rofl  :bolt:
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2011, 03:11:23 AM »
Our Mossie is actually pretty tough. It goes along with the pics of WW2 Mossies that made it home with giant holes in the rear fuselage, or the tails all shot up. 
That's because you do not see the planes that didn't made it back...
But true, wood had several advantages when taking damage. Must be hilarious when you bring back a smashed mosquito and a team of carpenters and piano builders show up and start sawing hammering and gluing :) I read about a pilot that saw the wing of his mosquito being sawed off, fixed and attached back again with glue and nails. He refused to fly it again, but someone else did and the plane kept flying for the rest of the war.
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2011, 06:37:32 AM »
Heard that tale too - USAAF Mossie IIRC.

When 23 Squadron was on Malta, they had a local coffin-maker round to do some of the woodwork.

Pilots joked they were watching for him to put brass handles on someone's fuselage...
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #53 on: May 31, 2011, 04:18:13 AM »
Why the Mossie VI is ENY 30:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0McNgWA59g
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This raid got spotted some distance away, giving us time to up (I was actually outbound to another area from the field and doubled back hence my alt when entering). We where still way outnumbered, but It pretty much turned into a total slaughter as the entire raid was killed in under four minutes and we lost maybe two or three guys, they didn't even touch the town and almost nothing on the field was destroyed.

Because people have no idea how to use it.
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #54 on: May 31, 2011, 04:43:35 AM »
Why the Mossie VI is ENY 30:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0McNgWA59g
Because people have no idea how to use it.
I have seen the same done with a pony raid (pony is ENY5). The same slaughter happened, and i got 34 perks that sortie (yup, i LUV the vSQUAD). Its not about the planes, its about their handlers  ;)
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #55 on: May 31, 2011, 09:13:35 AM »
Yeah, unless its a whole squad raid (a good one  :cool:), usually we can expect raids to have most of the pilots not know how to fly the main ride for it in any effective way.
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2011, 05:40:03 AM »
LOL!  I just hope there was no kids within earshot to hear the colorful narration.  :devil
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #57 on: June 02, 2011, 01:45:04 PM »
I have seen the same done with a pony raid (pony is ENY5). The same slaughter happened, and i got 34 perks that sortie (yup, i LUV the vSQUAD). Its not about the planes, its about their handlers  ;)
Oh, in the hands of a group of players who knew how to use it those Mossies would have done very much better.  I wasn't maligning the aircraft, but rather pointing out how most people see it.  Because they see it like that, they don't use it much.  There was literally no difference in the result of that raid as compared to what a nape of the earth, unescorted Bf110G-2 would experience.
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2011, 03:55:37 PM »
I find deacking is much easier with the cannons on the 110
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Re: New Mossie VI vs 110G2
« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2011, 05:48:32 PM »
I find deacking is much easier with the cannons on the 110
Bigger splash radius on the 30mm makes accuracy less important.
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