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Offline gyrene81

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Re: He177
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2011, 01:06:41 PM »
Quote from: iron650 on May 14, 2011, 12:07:09 PM
I have flown a Ju88. I get shot down due to lack of defensive guns. I haven't had one Ju88 sortie where I got shot down.
wait...you get shot down in the 88 due to lack of defensive guns but you haven't had a sortie where you got shot down in them?  :headscratch:
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Re: He177
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2011, 01:14:24 PM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on May 14, 2011, 01:06:41 PM
wait...you get shot down in the 88 due to lack of defensive guns but you haven't had a sortie where you got shot down in them?  :headscratch:


Got killed IN them

Quote from: Karnak on May 14, 2011, 12:53:34 PM
Only problem I have with the He177 is that AH would turn what was one of the worst bombers of WWII into what might well be the best unperked bomber in AH.  It is absurdly awesome.

I would love to see the Ju188 though.

How about perking it?

The Ju188 was a recon plane or tactical bomber that has less defensive and bomb load.


He177 :noid
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Re: He177
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2011, 06:30:27 PM »
yooooooooooooo :noid we have to get that... it pretty  much is a german B-29 :airplane:
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Re: He177
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2011, 06:53:30 PM »
Quote from: iron650 on May 14, 2011, 01:14:24 PM

Got killed IN them

How about perking it?

The Ju188 was a recon plane or tactical bomber that has less defensive and bomb load.


He177 :noid
It seems absurd to have one of the worst bombers of WWII and have to perk it because it is too good.

As to the Ju188, so?  It had a 20mm in the top turret, good performance and carried more than a B-17.  Seems good enough to me.

There is literally no reason that we need a German, or Axis, heavy bomber.
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Re: He177
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2011, 07:41:50 PM »
Quote from: Debrody on May 14, 2011, 09:17:00 AM
haha   you have balls ten risking the perks facing with the 20mm   :aok
anyway, been discussed several times even only this year...

Spit14 farms be enough perks to fly a Spit14  :D

Quote from: iron650 on May 14, 2011, 08:41:11 AM
I'll fly the He177 and try to gun you down.  :uhoh :bolt:

Key word is "try"...  :devil
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Re: He177
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2011, 08:36:30 PM »
-1 to any new heavy bomber
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Re: He177
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2011, 08:42:16 AM »
Quote from: surfinn on May 14, 2011, 08:36:30 PM
-1 to any new heavy bomber
he is right we have what like 50 fighters and like 15 bombers no need for more buffs..... :headscratch: :bolt:
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Re: He177
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2011, 12:45:10 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on May 14, 2011, 06:53:30 PM
It seems absurd to have one of the worst bombers of WWII and have to perk it because it is too good.

As to the Ju188, so?  It had a 20mm in the top turret, good performance and carried more than a B-17.  Seems good enough to me.

There is literally no reason that we need a German, or Axis, heavy bomber.


We don't have many axis bombers.  :huh
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Re: He177
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2011, 01:01:56 PM »
Quote from: iron650 on May 15, 2011, 12:45:10 PM

We don't have many axis bombers.  :huh
  :old: :old: :old: :old: :old: :old: :old: HE177 for ACES HIGH 2!  :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Re: He177
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2011, 01:13:33 PM »
Quote from: olds442 on May 15, 2011, 01:01:56 PM
  :old: :old: :old: :old: :old: :old: :old: HE177 for ACES HIGH 2!  :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
I don't have an issue putting it in. How ever I do agree with Karnak in that if this aircrafts terrible flaws are not programmed in with it's possible inclusion. You would have a devastating bomber that just would not be realistic at all. Just like our AR-234B with rearward facing guns it just never existed.
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Re: He177
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2011, 01:31:16 PM »
Quote from: lyric1 on May 15, 2011, 01:13:33 PM
I don't have an issue putting it in. How ever I do agree with Karnak in that if this aircrafts terrible flaws are not programmed in with it's possible inclusion. You would have a devastating bomber that just would not be realistic at all. Just like our AR-234B with rearward facing guns it just never existed.


How about the B-29 it's engines commonly burst into flames after landing. Me163, too would explode on landings often.
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Re: He177
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2011, 02:04:31 PM »
Quote from: iron650 on May 15, 2011, 12:45:10 PM

We don't have many axis bombers.  :huh
I have no idea what you are referring to.

Quote from: iron650 on May 15, 2011, 01:31:16 PM

How about the B-29 it's engines commonly burst into flames after landing. Me163, too would explode on landings often.
The B-29's teething problems pale into insignificance when compared with the utter failure that was the He177 program.
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Offline EagleDNY

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Re: He177
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2011, 02:16:56 PM »
As I remember the DB-610 engines were really just 2 DB-605s mated together, and they had huge problems with them.  They finally solved enough of the problems to go into production, but the He-177s really spent most of their time sitting on the tarmac until it was too late for them to make a difference. 

I'd much rather see one of the JU88S versions, or maybe even one of the anti-tank P variants. 
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Re: He177
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2011, 04:23:27 PM »
We need a German bomber that's not outclassed.
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Re: He177
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2011, 05:57:38 PM »
Quote from: iron650 on May 15, 2011, 04:23:27 PM
We need a German bomber that's not outclassed.
Not a lot to choose from the Germans were not really heavy bomber oriented. The Italian Piagio P108 was a purpose built heavy Axis bomber. Not very many built & the Italians never had more than 24 in service at any one time. They could not afford a large aircraft & simply was pushed aside for more appropriate aircraft.







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