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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2011, 12:48:39 PM »
My mom doesn't like dogs, either.  It's sad, really, I love dogs; they're like living, breathing stuffed animals that you just can't help but love.

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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2011, 01:13:36 PM »
Even then, i've been attacked by a bulldog before, the owner got it off before the damage was to bad, and I've also been attacked by a German Shepard, and most of the time when i'm around dogs they growl and nip at me, but for once this dog didn't show its teeth or growl or anything. I really wish I could give her my home  :cry
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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2011, 01:32:01 PM »
Geez, you don't seem to have much luck with dogs, do you?

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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2011, 02:24:12 PM »
One point that hasn't been mentioned yet is maybe these "aggressive dogs" aren't aggressive at all by nature, but instead, the perception of their aggressiveness attracts "tough guy" owners to that specific breed.  And these d0uchenozzles turn the dog into a monster.

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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2011, 02:27:37 PM »
One point that hasn't been mentioned yet is maybe these "aggressive dogs" aren't aggressive at all by nature, but instead, the perception of their aggressiveness attracts "tough guy" owners to that specific breed.  And these d0uchenozzles turn the dog into a monster.

as far as I know there is only one truly "naturally aggressive" dog, at a dog show the judge is not allowed to even touch them.....(but I guess that depends on the show)

I cant remember for the life of me what the breed name is :headscratch:

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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2011, 02:30:22 PM »
I think most folks who own "dangerous" animals that haven't attacked anyone (yet) feel like they're the "good", "knowledgeable", owners.  

They don't have anything to worry about, because the "other guy" is the moron who'll mess up something with his dog, and lose control for that terrible moment.

How do you know if you're in the "right" group of dog owners?
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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2011, 02:38:11 PM »
I think most folks who own "dangerous" animals that haven't attacked anyone (yet) feel like they're the "good", "knowledgeable", owners.  

They don't have anything to worry about, because the "other guy" is the moron who'll mess up something with his dog, and lose control for that terrible moment.

How do you know if you're in the "right" group of dog owners?

I don't think it is like that at all.  Bad dogs don't come from good families.

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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2011, 03:29:30 PM »
Fila Brasileiro

most aggressive dog in the world :aok

I read somewhere :headscratch: that this dog will NOT accept strangers, and judges are advised NOT to handle it during a show.

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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2011, 04:10:26 PM »
I have a simple solution to this.  If a dog attacks someone outside of it's own yard, the dogs owner is nuetered.  Solves two problems, one nobody would risk having a poorly trained dog, and secondly may stop some stupid people from breeding :aok 

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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2011, 04:12:39 PM »
I have a simple solution to this.  If a dog attacks someone outside of it's own yard, the dogs owner is nuetered.  Solves two problems, one nobody would risk having a poorly trained dog, and secondly may stop some stupid people from breeding :aok 

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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2011, 04:17:52 PM »
I have a simple solution to this.  If a dog attacks someone outside of it's own yard, the dogs owner is nuetered.  Solves two problems, one nobody would risk having a poorly trained dog, and secondly may stop some stupid people from breeding :aok 

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Geez, you don't seem to have much luck with dogs, do you?

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This is the first dog ever to not bark at me, so i think the answer is yes lol
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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2011, 04:26:16 PM »
Pitbulls are already naturally aggressive, but in my situation and the one in New York, its the owners like you said.

Raptor you need to look the facts up. a REAL pitbull, a PURE bread pitbull is not vicious at all. As Ink has stated in other posts, Pitbull on the fact sheets are considered ANYTHING with pitbull in its blood, so pitbull lab, pitbull mastiff, pitbull boxer and so forth. I have had a pitbull Lab for over 6 years, we care for her like a child and have never had ONE problem with her.  It is not the breed its the owner. You can teach a Chihuahua to fight and attack people if you wanted to.

This is my little baby, one of sweetest and nicest dogs ever. Dont get me wrong, if she doesnt know you she will bark. But we have never had one problem with her.





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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2011, 04:31:45 PM »
My bad I meant to change what I said but I couldn't, but I fully understand what all of you are saying about Dogs not being naturally aggressive.
Also she's adorable!
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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2011, 05:46:18 PM »
I don't think it is like that at all.  Bad dogs don't come from good families.

So what constitutes a "good family" then?

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against pitbulls (other than their looks, they definitely don't appeal to me in that aspect).  I just doubt that many of the folks who have dog-related problems consider themselves to be from "bad families".  I doubt they expect problems will occur until after the fact.  I'd never own one because I have no use for them (I use my dogs for hunting).  My in-laws have several pits, and have never had issues with them.

I have lots of experience with dogs, and with training them (and other animals) to a higher level than most (hand and whistle signals, field dogs, falconry-trained field dogs, retrievers and pointers, etc).  I've never had issues with any of them, except for one.  I still have him (male Jack Russel terrier).  He's a damn fine dog, but has a temper like a light-switch.  He'll be fine for months, and then go into a 10 minute pissed-off mode for no reason.  In those moments, he's definitely capable of hurting someone.  He was much worse earlier, and has made great strides over the last 4-5 years, but he still has occasional "episodes".  His real issue is with me, because he thinks he should be the top-dog in the house.  He never has problems with my wife or kids anymore (although he's tried to assert dominance over my kids in the past), but he still occasionally thinks he can take me.

We're talking about a 13# animal that's definitely the "odd dog" in a string of other dogs that have never had problems.  My family hasn't changed, but the dog is different...
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Re: Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2011, 06:12:21 PM »
Pitbulls are already naturally aggressive, but in my situation and the one in New York, its the owners like you said.
we had a pitbull and he would never show any agression unless provoked to a good point. like when my neighbor shot him with his airsoft rifle. then my dog almost bit his arm off...