Boy, 4, mauled to death by dog in his NYC home

[BnZs]

The "threat" of dog attack strikes me as very solvable, as dogs lack opposable thumbs.

[Rash]

Read this in the local paper a few weeks ago, sad for all involved.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20110518_11_A11_CUTLIN363828&archive=yes


and the same police department did this just a couple years ago.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20091001_11_A8_ATulsa566192

[dedalos]

As you have told doesn't sound like it is the dogs fault.  Sounds like the owners fault.  Any breed of dog can be vicious if its owner doesn't handle it properly.

Maybe, but I can handle a vicious dachshund. 

Once again, I don't understand people.  Why have a dog in your house that can take you down if it chose too?  As some posted already, some breeds are naturally more aggressive than others, and this one also has the weapons to do some damage if it chose too.

[grizz441]

Maybe, but I can handle a vicious dachshund. 

Once again, I don't understand people.  Why have a dog in your house that can take you down if it chose too?  As some posted already, some breeds are naturally more aggressive than others, and this one also has the weapons to do some damage if it chose too.

Aggressiveness is different than violent.

[guncrasher]

Maybe, but I can handle a vicious dachshund.  

Once again, I don't understand people.  Why have a dog in your house that can take you down if it chose too?  As some posted already, some breeds are naturally more aggressive than others, and this one also has the weapons to do some damage if it chose too.

same reason why people take the suv to drive 1 block to the liquor store.  they want to feel powerful.  people forget dogs are animals that are governed by instinct.  and there are cases where the family dog will kill a small child when the dog feel its place in the family is threatened.  there's a hierarchy in the animal kingdom that no matter how much you train the animal you wont break.   There's the alpha male then the rest based on strength.  and if a dog feels that its place in that hierarchy is threatened then it will fight to protect it and possible kill whoever is in the way.

most of you guys are right, it's not the dogs fault but the owners.  but only because  they should have never gotten should a big dog just to prove their own manliness.


semp

[dedalos]

Aggressiveness is different than violent.

OK, lets play word game then lol.  They all have different personalities.  Just like humans can be violent so can dogs (training or not).  You may get the impression that training fixes them all but all you see are the ones that made it through training.  The ones that were aggressive or violent are at the shelters (I know because both my wife and I volunteer there).

So the question remains, why have an animal that could take you down at home?  There are so many dogs to choose from.

[grizz441]

So the question remains, why have an animal that could take you down at home?  There are so many dogs to choose from.

My favorite kind's of dogs are labs and retrievers, which I would never stray from.  Are those too dangerous?

[dedalos]

My favorite kind's of dogs are labs and retrievers, which I would never stray from.  Are those too dangerous?

Is this where I say no and you pull an example of a lab killing someone?  Not cool  Just read my post and try to understand what I am saying.  Some breeds are naturally more aggressive.  They were meant to be.  We worked for years to make them that way.  As I said, every dog could do it but a lab would be on the bottom of my list.  If it did happen a lab would most likely back off after a size 13 shoe got on his ribs.  A pit would just go for the kill.  See the difference? 

There is reason it is always the same dogs that end up doing the killing.  Sure, the owners are responsible but it is not often that you hear of an Australian Shepperd killing people no matter how it was treated.  It may bite, but wont go for the kill.

[SlapShot]

Personally, I'd probably punt one if it barked and got close to me.

Maybe you should re-think owning a dog with an attitude like that.

[VonMessa]

Maybe you should re-think owning a dog with an attitude like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhXEwQtggV4

 

[BnZs]

  If it did happen a lab would most likely back off after a size 13 shoe got on his ribs. 

All dogs are likely to cease attacking after taking a round or three from any moderately powerful caliber at close range. Their lack of thumbs make it relatively easy to win the "arms race" with them. Am I confused here? I thought we humans had developed the technology to easily defend ourselves from large carnivores awhile back.

The most fierce and athletic dog I ever owned was a black lab-sheperd mix btw. I must also say, I strongly question the rationality of adding yet another intrusive and un-enforceable bit of legislation to the world when one is more likely to be killed by some mutant in the process of stealing your TV than a dog. And one is more likely to die from lightning strike than either...

[dedalos]

All dogs are likely to cease attacking after taking a round or three from any moderately powerful caliber at close range. Their lack of thumbs make it relatively easy to win the "arms race" with them. Am I confused here? I thought we humans had developed the technology to easily defend ourselves from large carnivores awhile back.

Too bad we have not yet developed the technology to . . .  . bah, never mind 

[morfiend]

Is this where I say no and you pull an example of a lab killing someone?  Not cool  Just read my post and try to understand what I am saying.  Some breeds are naturally more aggressive.  They were meant to be.  We worked for years to make them that way.  As I said, every dog could do it but a lab would be on the bottom of my list.  If it did happen a lab would most likely back off after a size 13 shoe got on his ribs.  A pit would just go for the kill.  See the difference? 

There is reason it is always the same dogs that end up doing the killing.  Sure, the owners are responsible but it is not often that you hear of an Australian Shepperd killing people no matter how it was treated.  It may bite, but wont go for the kill.

  Ded,


  I hear what your saying and actually agrre to some degree,some people shouldnt have an animal that can take them down,like the tiger owner that was just mauled to death near where I live.

  Somehow the post went from a Cane Corso killing a child to pitbulls killing!  Look up the real stats on deaths by dogs and the pitbull isnt even at the top. Any dog over 30 lbs can be dangerous,might not get killed by a fat 30 lb jack russel but it could sure inflict some damage.

   Personally,I think anyone wanting to own a dog should have a licsense,not the dog the owner,they should have to prove they can care for and handle thier dog of choice. I also agree with BnZ,no dog is ever going to take me down,hopefully I'm just slightly smarter than any dog so I should have the upper hand,opposing thumbs and all!


  99% of the time it's the owners fault,1% of the time it's the dog's fault but it's so much easier to blame the dog.A well trained attack dog is more dangerous than a gun,simply because the dog can act on his own.Most people just dont understand dogs,those people should keep cats instead.....

  The reason we're seeing more of this type of thing is because pitbulls have been outlawed! So instead a person that has no right in owning a pit goes out and gets a Mastif like the Corso or Persa simply because they cant own a pitbull.



  I think I might just start raising hamsters,anyone heard of a hamster attacking???




     

[grizz441]

There is reason it is always the same dogs that end up doing the killing.  Sure, the owners are responsible but it is not often that you hear of an Australian Shepperd killing people no matter how it was treated.  It may bite, but wont go for the kill.

Maybe that's because the owner's of those dogs chose that dog because it was a "tough dog" and he made sure it was gonna be a "tough dog" from the day he got it, because he's a tough guy that needs to project his manliness through his pet.  This type of owner isn't going to raise a loving family dog properly.  

You don't hear about aggressive beagles probably because tough guys don't like beagles.

[Dago]

Dogs like Pit Bulls are some peoples answer to low self esteem or insecurities.