unperk the spit14

[Wmaker]

OK, so Americans might not always be perfectly precise in our words, such as saying "turns twice as tight" but really meaning "turns way better" and ect.

So are you saying that Americans are notoriously unscientific and stooopid? Just a question. I don't believe it to be so. Morons come in all shapes and sizes. Some people are notoriusly stoopid though, and it has nothing to do with the nationality.

[Lusche]

OK, so Americans might not always be perfectly precise in our words, such as saying "turns twice as tight" but really meaning "turns way better" and ect. Feel free to make a graph on the 2 planes though, I always enjoy those, quite informative!

Don't need to do this, already has been done:



http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=spit9&p2=spit14&p3=109g2&p4=109k4


See the relatively small difference between the K4 and Spit 14 @ full flaps, keeping in mind that the K4 can start to deploy flaps much earlier. Unfortunately degrees per second are not shown, where the Spit 14 and the K4 are actually almost identical at full flaps.

[Debrody]

Interesting. For me the g-2 vs spit9 "feels" much tougher than the k-4 vs spit14.

[321BAR]

Don't need to do this, already has been done:

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http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=spit9&p2=spit14&p3=109g2&p4=109k4


See the relatively small difference between the K4 and Spit 14 @ full flaps, keeping in mind that the K4 can start to deploy flaps much earlier. Unfortunately degrees per second are not shown, where the Spit 14 and the K4 are actually almost identical at full flaps.

i have never ever tried to go flaps down in a spit 14 for a reason once i learned about this. once the flaps are out, the K4 can easily take you if he's good enough to. keep it a little above flap speeds and youll out turn the K4 any day. the 14's heavy bulk just is too much for going that slow

[Tupac]

Pretty please HT

[BnZs]

A turn RATE comparison would be most illuminating. If the Spit14 out-rates the K4 by the same margin it out-does it in no-flaps turn radius, winning position would be rather easy to achieve in the typical nose-to-tail chase. Granted, the 109K4 handled by an ace would still have some good deceleration/scissors cards to play, but the Hispanos o'doom could easily kill or cripple it on even the briefest short-range shot opportunity.

[Lusche]

A turn RATE comparison would be most illuminating..

According to Mosq's big turn comparison tests:

No Flaps
Spit 14 radius 628.6 /  DPS 22.5
K-4 radius 703.3 / DPS 19.6

Full Flaps
Spit 14 radius 509.3 / DPS 19.4
K-4 radius 533.3 / DPS 19.5

[BnZs]

According to Mosq's big turn comparison tests:

No Flaps
Spit 14 radius 628.6 /  DPS 22.5
K-4 radius 703.3 / DPS 19.6

Full Flaps
Spit 14 radius 509.3 / DPS 19.4
K-4 radius 533.3 / DPS 19.5

So the Spit14 should definitely keep flaps up and avoid nose-to-nose turning, and the K4 should definitely get flaps down at the first opportunity and probably do everything in its power to force a nose-to-nose fight. That makes it almost like a Merlin-powered Spit vrs a Corsair fight.