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Flight modeling
« on: July 26, 2011, 05:44:31 PM »
How do the programmers know how the planes are supposed perform in here?..Blue prints maybe? actual plane performance? guess work?
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 05:51:51 PM »
It's a combination of anecdotes, youtube videos, community polls, Wiki pastes, and grainy black and white pictures.   :devil


Kidding. They use official documents and math.  :D

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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 05:58:12 PM »
It's a combination of anecdotes, youtube videos, community polls, Wiki pastes, and grainy black and white pictures.   :devil


Kidding. They use official documents and math.  :D

lmao ...math and official documents :rofl
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 06:08:07 PM »
"Official documents" meaning primary source documents of flight testing done back in WWII, or shortly after.
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 06:13:09 PM »
Hitech flew in a p51 in real life
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 06:15:40 PM »
Karnak I expect the flight test data is used for verifying the model not creating it.

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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 06:17:58 PM »
I would like to have this flight test modeling data

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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2011, 06:20:23 PM »
Karnak I expect the flight test data is used for verifying the model not creating it.
It will be what they use as the basis of the FM's target performance as well.

I would like to have this flight test modeling data

Not holding my breath
You can get some of it at http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/ 

Good books are another source.

You can request some more from government sources.
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2011, 06:36:03 PM »
Hitech flew in a p51 in real life
I flew in a B24, B17 ,C47 and a C172 in real life lol
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 06:45:17 PM »
I also believe that HiTech has his personal airplane also in the game so he can use it to compare it's performance with real life data and for the odd evil con mission.

But as someone linked to wwiiaircraftperfomance.com, you can find some of the official data that was used and in books and government sources as well.  Also, people have to remember that due to the complexity of creating a perfectly accurate flight model, it would be beyond our feeble desktop PCs to be able to process it so allowances have to be made.

For a PC flight sim, Aces High has a pretty damn good flight model and physics and there is a reason that after 10+ years, the game is still around and doing well.

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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 06:50:52 PM »
I fly the 4hog in the DA and I am curious if the real plane could physically do some of the things the cartoon plane does in the DA? (assuming the pilot is invincible against g's and head banging turns lol)
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2011, 07:02:41 PM »
I flew in a B24, B17 ,C47 and a C172 in real life lol
How do they compare to this game?
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2011, 07:06:58 PM »
How do they compare to this game?

Dunno, I was a passenger and once we hit 6k, I bailed out of the bomb bays....I was told the C47 saw action during D-Day  and the C172...well is a C172 lol
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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2011, 07:18:49 PM »
I fly the 4hog in the DA and I am curious if the real plane could physically do some of the things the cartoon plane does in the DA? (assuming the pilot is invincible against g's and head banging turns lol)

Yes it can do some of those things. The pilot doesn't even have to be immune to G loading.

Why would you bang your head in a turn?

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Re: Flight modeling
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2011, 07:20:09 PM »
Yes it can do some of those things. The pilot doesn't even have to be immune to G loading.

Why would you bang your head in a turn?

The way I fly ...I need all the bracing I need lol
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