The Inequity of it all

[TonyJoey]

Now you're attacking the Brewster? The Wmaker signal is up. You seem to through out baseless claims, then just throw out more when the previous ones are shot down. No matter how many times you say something, it doesn't make it right, especially when almost every fact pertaining to the issue(s) at hand point against you.

[Raphael]

  I went to the DA once and this is all I saw...................

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Is that LARP?

[Shane]

because the "charts" say so  

Can't really vouch for your DA time, but your other "charts" do say a lot about you.  

I think it's time to, well, be a tad blunt here and...

[Scca]

Imagine this, if you will.

A Ferrari sits at a stop light.  Behind him, an old beat-up Ford pickup truck comes barreling down the road at 60mph.  The light turns green as the truck arrives, and it blazes on through without ever stopping.  Sure, the Ferrari can accelerate to 60mph in mere seconds, but at this point the Ford is already hundreds of feet ahead before the Ferrari can match and exceed its speed.  Ultimately, the Ferrari will pass the Ford, but it's not an instant thing - even if he is going significantly faster.

See where I'm going here?  

If you're flying level in a P-51, and a Spit XVI dives down on you, he's going to be a lot faster than you.  Your plane's top speed might be greater, but at that moment your speed relative to his is lower.  It's going to take time to match his speed by trying to dive away, and then it's going to take more time still for you to pull away once you exceed his speed.  During all of that, you're vulnerable.

Don't confuse him with the facts, they are beyond him.

[The Fugitive]

Aw fugitive, i wish i had enough time to sit around on my backside all day and do nothing but fly a cartoon plane around.
maybe then i'd have an ego as big as yours!  

LOL!!! You have soooooo much to learn little man.

First off, had you checked (I know you don't like doing research) you would see that I run about 20 hours a month average playing the game. I probably spend more time on the message boards than I do flying, but that's because I work for a living and bought myself of of those fancy smart phones that I can use on those short "down times" I get with my job.

Second as we are talking about your skill, or lack there of, I can't figure out how MY ego is worked into this. You seem to have confused my stating facts with with some type of bragging. If you reread my post you'll see I don't mention my flying or skill at all. I was just trying to get everyone back on topic. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was talking a shot at you, but with posts like...

"But like i said, Your asking to get rid of something i like (F3 mode).
so im asking to get rid of something you like (spit16)."

you come off sounding a bit childish.

F3 should be removed because it gives a player an unfair advantage (much the same reason the IL2 lost the F3 mode in the MA's). The dueling arena is an arena setup for duels, competition. The fights should be based on player skill, not gamy advantages. NOT because the OP doesn't like it.

[Melvin]

I fly the 109F4 and 109G-2

And you are having trouble with Spitfires? 

[Tyrannis]

LOL!!! You have soooooo much to learn little man.

First off, had you checked (I know you don't like doing research) you would see that I run about 20 hours a month average playing the game. I probably spend more time on the message boards than I do flying, but that's because I work for a living and bought myself of of those fancy smart phones that I can use on those short "down times" I get with my job.

i may play on average an Hour a day. maybe even rarer than that. the girlfriend hates me on it, but anyways.
I too most likely spend more time on the message boards than flying. but thats because i have a job as-well, And could afford one of those fancy "computers" with their "etardnet" connection. so i never have to click out of the bbs 

Second as we are talking about your skill, or lack there of, I can't figure out how MY ego is worked into this. You seem to have confused my stating facts with with some type of bragging. If you reread my post you'll see I don't mention my flying or skill at all. I was just trying to get everyone back on topic. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was talking a shot at you, but with posts like...

lets look at the original post...

You guys are missing the point here. Tyrannis is just throwing a temper tantrum because some one suggested that F3 be removed from the DA. I think he said if I can't have my F3 then you can't have the spit16.

He's just stomping his feet because some body might miss with the only way he can fly. Your building one heck of a reputation around here Tyrannis!  LOL

You not only took "shots" at me in your original post, but continue to do so. i Never claimed to be the top ace pilot of the game, but i do good enough with the mere mouse+keyboard i have.
And you say you dont have an ego, yet you state everything youve said as "facts" instead of mere opinion? 
I agree i still have alot to learn, but theres nothing useful to learn from observing you 

and on the F3 mode talk, no one forces YOU to fly in f3 mode. you tell me to adapt to spit16 pilots, why dont you all take your own advice and adapt to f3 pilots?
 

[TonyJoey]

And you are having trouble with Spitfires?  

I know I'll probably be lynched for this, but equal pilots the Spit16/9 will beat those two 109s pretty handily. The K4 is much different, but that's irrelevant to my point. An anecdotal example was awhile ago when I was dueling Krupnski. He was mopping the floor with me the whole night, but eventually we ended up in Spit vs 109 duels and I had little trouble winning those. Bottom line is that in-game the Spit9/16 is superior to the 109 variants mentioned.

To Tyrannis: The reason people don't want F3 is that it gives you an unfair advantage. I've had many fights where the guy is coming up under my nose and using F3 would have helped me see where he is and be able to react accordingly. The Spit16, on the other hand, does not give that same kind of advantage. It has a lot of strengths, but it also has weaknesses that can be exploited to your advantage, such as it's light armor, poor deceleration, and top speed. On the other hand, using F3 in situations such as the one I mentioned has no downside, and is impossible to exploit. That is why it should be removed.

[Tyrannis]

And you are having trouble with Spitfires? 

1-2? no.
8-9 uh, yah 

[Melvin]

I understand your point TonyJoey, but what I noticed when I was playing was that most Spit XVI pilots in the DA just aren't that good.

A decent stick with rudimentary knowledge of the 109F-4 should be able to easily outmaneuver a spray and pray hotard in a Spit.

Before the Uber Spit dweeeb masses befall me, let me make clear that there ARE SOME good Spit pilots.







Just not many...    

[Threeup]

As a post script to this I asked HTC the same question and received an answer almost immediately offering the opinion that the use of F3 (outside view) in the DA was primarily intended for newer, more inexperienced players to familiarize themselves with virtual flying. There is little to be gained from complaining about something unless you ask the provider.

Two things strike me. That makes sense. If you are new you probably need help to gain confidence until you get used to cockpit views. The emphasis would probably be on new. Yes - new, inexperienced players. The second is it’s amazing that you can e-mail the company and get a turnaround answer within a few hours. Anyone that bemoans the game should keep that in mind.

That’s a good outcome – asked and answered.

Tyrannis – I read your words and whilst always trying to thing the best of people I have to ask the question.
1)   Are you an idiot?
2)   Are you 12 years old?
3)   Are you a 12 year old idiot?
4)   Are you an idiot with an IQ of 12?

You not only go off on a tangent which didn’t even address the original post, but you dismiss the opinions and facts of people that have more knowledge of WW2 aircraft than most of us have if it were all added up. Some of the authors of posts surely deserve the benefit of the doubt being that they know their stuff. Stop typing and start reading.

Don’t come back at me either. In pure testosterone terms you’ve always declined a 1v1 – not that it would prove anything, but I always hoped it would shut you up for a while. And I would rather drink bleach than hear about how good you are – again.

And if your girlfriend doesn’t like you playing Aces High – in your case – just remove her valve and deflate her and put her back in the box she came in. you can always pump her back up after you’ve finished.

As Roy always said to Dale – Happy Trails

[Raphael]

And if your girlfriend doesn’t like you playing Aces High – in your case – just remove her valve and deflate her and put her back in the box she came in. you can always pump her back up after you’ve finished.

OH
MY
GOD

[PFactorDave]

And if your girlfriend doesn’t like you playing Aces High – in your case – just remove her valve and deflate her and put her back in the box she came in. you can always pump her back up after you’ve finished.

 

Cleaning the ol' monitor now...

[des506]

Don’t come back at me either. In pure testosterone terms you’ve always declined a 1v1 – not that it would prove anything, but I always hoped it would shut you up for a while. And I would rather drink bleach than hear about how good you are – again.

And if your girlfriend doesn’t like you playing Aces High – in your case – just remove her valve and deflate her and put her back in the box she came in. you can always pump her back up after you’ve finished.

As Roy always said to Dale – Happy Trails

 

on ya 3up!!! almost fell outa my chair laughing...

[EskimoJoe]

Tyrannis
1)   Are you an idiot?
2)   Are you 12 years old?
3)   Are you a 12 year old idiot?
4)   Are you an idiot with an IQ of 12?

From my observations, I can say with confidence that Tyrannis can accurately answer 'yes' to all of the above.

In regards to the rest of your post Threeup --