The Inequity of it all

[SmokinLoon]

I simply wish that HTC would TRY different settings over a month or bi-monthly trial period, heck even over a weekly period  --just to see if it works and how things are received--

[Krusty]

Way way way back I used F3, when I was learning. It was very useful, for a beginner-learning-to-fight stage. I don't deny it makes things way easier than F2 mode, but you have to remember not everybody flies like you do. Some folks are just starting out. Some folks are stuck in arcade mode. Some folks avoid learning (see the EWA milk runners and fight avoiders, for example).

I think F3 has a place for learning, and sometimes just for fun. I don't know if it's worth having in the DA or not, but consider that you also go to the DA to learn how to fight, since you can't shoot an enemy down in the TA. Beginners are going to want to practice there, and they start with F3.

Maybe it's moot now. Maybe with private rooms you won't need them in the DA anymore. They'll have a room of their own with no fuel burn, no ammo limit, and F3 enabled. They'll go there and leave the DA to serious folk.

[RTHolmes]

surely having F3 enabled just teaches you ... how to fight with F3 enabled?

[VonMessa]

surely having F3 enabled just teaches you ... how to fight with F3 enabled?

I was loathe to say this as it seemed self-evident but, in this case, it seems absolutely necessary...

[PFactorDave]

I simply wish that HTC would TRY different settings over a month or bi-monthly trial period, heck even over a weekly period  --just to see if it works and how things are received--

More interesting would be a temporary second DA that has the same settings as the MA...  See if it draws new users, pulls users from the F3 enabled DA, or gets little use at all. 

I believe that there is a subset of AH subscribers who spend their time in the DA.  That is what they enjoy.  I believe that HTC keeps the current settings in the DA because they have some paying customers who enjoy playing that way.

[Krusty]

surely having F3 enabled just teaches you ... how to fight with F3 enabled?

That same thing could be said of learning to fly with F2 as well, no?

Think of it only as a boost in SA. You can see more so it allows you to react more. You see a plane under your wing at low 9 oclock, so you can now react, bank into him, dodge his attack, turn behind him, whatever...

You can pull a lot of lead on targets, to help learn how much is "just right" (to the point you see hits land), you can adjust dive angles for NOE targets or for GVs...

It's generaly like flying with no cockpit, but better (because the camera is behind the plane, you can see cons above and below you that would be out of your FOV from the pilot's head point of view).

So you do learn things. Look at me now. I'm not TOTALLY helpless. It's like the LCG. Nice to learn with, but only sad if you can't get past it (like a 20-year-old with training wheels on his bike still).

[Changeup]

Goodness gracious!!!! This was an azz-whipping of Tyrannis proportions.  Being an X-DAer and someone who knows the 12 permanent F3 DA fixtures, Tyrannis, I offer you this advice:

1. Seek out ADog31st - he is the uber- self proclaimed F3 51 gawd in the DA and champions the pickers

2. Seek out Spacey - he is the uber - self proclaimed 16 gawd in defending against attacks doled out by ADog31st

3. Try really hard to have a farting contest with yourself because you have a much better chance of winning that than to continue the quest to become MR. SATs...F3 is a crutch used by newbs or people that do not have the inclination to learn a damn thing.  Arguing to keep such a useless tool in this game makes you look clownish...you don't want to be a clown do you?  Take Del up on his offer and retire your big red nose.

V/r

Changeup

[icepac]

I'd just like to see F3 view disabled in the main arena since we have icons for all vehicles there.

[Reaper90]

Is now the appropriate time to post up an "Epic Facepalm" photo?

[grizz441]

Goodness gracious!!!! This was an azz-whipping of Tyrannis proportions.  Being an X-DAer and someone who knows the 12 permanent F3 DA fixtures, Tyrannis, I offer you this advice:

1. Seek out ADog31st - he is the uber- self proclaimed F3 51 gawd in the DA and champions the pickers

2. Seek out Spacey - he is the uber - self proclaimed 16 gawd in defending against attacks doled out by ADog31st

3. Try really hard to have a farting contest with yourself because you have a much better chance of winning that than to continue the quest to become MR. SATs...F3 is a crutch used by newbs or people that do not have the inclination to learn a damn thing.  Arguing to keep such a useless tool in this game makes you look clownish...you don't want to be a clown do you?  Take Del up on his offer and retire your big red nose.

V/r

Changeup

[dedalos]

I believe that there is a subset of AH subscribers who spend their time in the DA.  That is what they enjoy.  I believe that HTC keeps the current settings in the DA because they have some paying customers who enjoy playing that way.

In that case, I would like to get some power ups in mid air that fix my plane and give it extra speed when I press the turbo button.  I am paying and I would enjoy that.  I also think a lot of others would too.

[PFactorDave]

In that case, I would like to get some power ups in mid air that fix my plane and give it extra speed when I press the turbo button.  I am paying and I would enjoy that.  I also think a lot of others would too.

You know, I am sure you had your tongue firmly planted in your cheek there, but if it brought in a broader subscriber base for HTC without affecting the current arenas, I wouldn't mind if HTC introduced more arcadey things to the DA.  Let the arcade players financially support the real game, I wouldn't play the arcadey stuff, but there are people who would.

[grizz441]

In that case, I would like to get some power ups in mid air that fix my plane

You mean like tank repair in the MAs?  

[dedalos]

You mean like tank repair in the MAs?  

Fair is fair 

[VonMessa]

You know, I am sure you had your tongue firmly planted in your cheek there, but if it brought in a broader subscriber base for HTC without affecting the current arenas, I wouldn't mind if HTC introduced more arcadey things to the DA.  Let the arcade players financially support the real game, I wouldn't play the arcadey stuff, but there are people who would.

You may be on to something, here...