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Offline Midway

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2011, 03:16:32 PM »
I agree.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2011, 04:21:54 PM »
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I'll try to maneuver most of the time, but if you are in the gunsight, I will always pull the trigger.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2011, 04:44:54 PM »
but you will be known by your actions


I agree with Ink here.  Certainly there's no prohibition against taking a HO, and if your goal is to maximize your kills I suppose it's often a wise shot to take.  But I always think less of people who do it.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2011, 05:15:26 PM »
 :D Is it OK to HO with 110 Rkts? It takes a lot of practice, & I try it as often as I can.  :neener: No, I have no shame.  :x


P.S. when we're both in turn fighters, in our 2nd or 3rd convergence, & I'm high on your 11:00, It ain't no HO, so stop cryin'.  :cry
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2011, 05:38:11 PM »

"actually i was heading for the ack, you got on the way. and that wasnt even a ho as i was from from your left at a 45 angle.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2011, 06:34:16 PM »
You remember...
45 degrees off?  How I get guns on you then?
lol...chop throttle hard rudder

seen it, rather gamey but...
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2011, 06:43:07 PM »
It depends on what kind of player you are.

If your skillless, or a win the war at all cost type, your going to HO. Your going to have all of these excellent reasons why you MUST HO.

"Im clearing the air space so the buffs can get in"
"Im flying a 110,tiffy, yada-yada-yada"
"my plane is out classed"
"I'm out numbered"
"I'm defending my base"
"he was in my gunsites"

If on the other hand you play this game to have dogfights....

You won't HO on the first pass
You will avoid any head on pass that you can after that
If you should pass nose to nose you won't fire

To me this game is about out flying the other guy and shooting him down. If all I wanted to do was rack up kills I can play Xbox. I try to NEVER fire on a head to head pass, should I find myself in one (I work very hard NOT to be in that position). Any one HOing me has already conceded the fight to me. They have admitted that they can not out fly me and get the kill shot other than HOin. When I do finally give up and start HOin every loser that comes at me I know its time to take a break. A man can only take so much  :D
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2011, 07:00:44 PM »
lol...chop throttle hard rudder

seen it, rather gamey but...

my wheels werent even up from taking off yet...
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2011, 07:37:48 PM »

To me this game is about out flying the other guy and shooting him down. If all I wanted to do was rack up kills I can play Xbox. I try to NEVER fire on a head to head pass, should I find myself in one (I work very hard NOT to be in that position). Any one HOing me has already conceded the fight to me. They have admitted that they can not out fly me and get the kill shot other than HOin.

I don't understand how you "surrender" the fight by HOing when it's 3 v 1 or more. 2 v 1 situations are fairly common and if the single pilot is any decent, he'll put up a real good fight and maybe even score 2 kills. 3 v 1, that's the point where if you don't take your chances, you're going to die. That's not surrendering, IMO, it's putting up the best defense you have.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Offline Stellaris

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2011, 07:38:25 PM »
Well y'know, different people play the game for different reasons.  One reason isn't necessarily more valid than another.  Personally, I avoid the HO because I might get shot down or collide.  However if I'm flying something tough and with big guns, I'll accept one if someone else is foolish enough to initiate it.  My own style is to fly like a real pilot would, which is to say saving my virtual bellybutton is priority one.  I never auger my plane for a quick remount, never do a suicide mission, and I'll run, if I can, from someone who's got the drop on me.  I once got bounced by two guys in 109s while I was in a Tempest.  The first one HOed, lost, and then squeaked the whole time I dueled his partner.  So y'know, next time, don't go there.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2011, 08:25:22 PM »
---to the original post---

HO anytime you see fit, it is the ENEMY's job to compromise to this if they wish. In the MA you learn that HO's will happen. For me, if i see a head on coming i either roll out or shoot first and ask questions later. A good enemy is a dead enemy in the MA for me but you'll see me rolling out more often than shooting because it is too risky to play chicken with a cannon bird or an armored bird <S>
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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2011, 09:28:22 PM »
I don't understand how you "surrender" the fight by HOing when it's 3 v 1 or more. 2 v 1 situations are fairly common and if the single pilot is any decent, he'll put up a real good fight and maybe even score 2 kills. 3 v 1, that's the point where if you don't take your chances, you're going to die. That's not surrendering, IMO, it's putting up the best defense you have.

Your giving up before you even start the fight!  You can win a 3 vs 1, all it takes is good sa, good timing, good shooting, and a bit of luck. You don't have to be GREAT at any of them.... certainly doesn't hurt  :devil

I don't have to "kill" the other guy. I know if I did all I could, more importantly I know when I screw up. Thats what I fly for. If I fight well, I had fun. Thats whats important to me.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2011, 09:36:09 PM »
I'm this way about it.  I won't fire on the first HO engagement.  That's just the way I am and I've been killed many times for it. 
After that though, I don't care where you're at, I will shoot.

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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2011, 09:45:00 PM »
It depends on what kind of player you are.

If your skillless, or a win the war at all cost type, your going to HO. Your going to have all of these excellent reasons why you MUST HO.

"Im clearing the air space so the buffs can get in"
"Im flying a 110,tiffy, yada-yada-yada"
"my plane is out classed"
"I'm out numbered"
"I'm defending my base"
"he was in my gunsites"

If on the other hand you play this game to have dogfights....

You won't HO on the first pass
You will avoid any head on pass that you can after that
If you should pass nose to nose you won't fire

To me this game is about out flying the other guy and shooting him down. If all I wanted to do was rack up kills I can play Xbox. I try to NEVER fire on a head to head pass, should I find myself in one (I work very hard NOT to be in that position). Any one HOing me has already conceded the fight to me. They have admitted that they can not out fly me and get the kill shot other than HOin. When I do finally give up and start HOin every loser that comes at me I know its time to take a break. A man can only take so much  :D


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Re: When Is It Alright to HO?
« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2011, 05:45:12 AM »
Ho'ing is very subjective

For example,
I go head to head with you and am shot down or damaged
this is a ho, YOU broke my planez

I go head to head with you and you are shot down or damaged,
This is called taking you to school or student pilot training.

Never Hoe with less than 6 50 or a pair of 20's.

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