Instead of new vehicles

[Chilli]

Waystin,

Truth be told, we already have some options, that do give us more immersion and better game play.  It's called Axis versus Allies.  But because no one ever goes there, no one ever will. 

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[gyrene81]

You know Gyrene, after 4 plus years in game I now know that it is up to the players and not the developers to make it fun.  It's the truth and I am sticking to it Sir.

absolutely agree sir.

[guncrasher]

How about a new "war system" that includes "usefull and critical" strats "that actually matter to the game" ie: fuel strats that in total make up 100% of a countries fuel, bring them to 50% and available fuel would be 50%, bring them down to zero and a country would have only 25% to work with. How about troop strats? ammunition strats. Radar strats that degrade with damage, not just are destroyed when totaly Fd up. Oil strats that have a great affect on boats. ENY strats? these would make low ENY birds cost more when damaged, shipyards that when damaged make boats take longer to spawn?

While I'm at it how about a system that encourages folks to defend against hordes, either a warning system or a "delayed capture" idea?


How about anything that improves the general interaction other than vehicles and maps? The graphics and vehicles and terains and maps have all improved over and over and over and over again, no how about some idea that changes the "same ol, same ol" "status quo" that this game has become?


Please give me something that will make me desire to stay!!!!!!




 



JUGgler

you are so awesome that you hardly get killed in bombers.  perhaps u should try to bomb anything that has a couple of fighters over it.

semp

[grizz441]

you are so awesome that you hardly get killed in bombers.  perhaps u should try to bomb anything that has a couple of fighters over it.

semp

Yeah Juggler quit avoiding combat.   

[The Fugitive]

You know Gyrene, after 4 plus years in game I now know that it is up to the players and not the developers to make it fun.  It's the truth and I am sticking to it Sir.

Unfortunately that is also the problem.

HTC has got to make the game work for the majority of the players, after all the more people enjoying the game the more people paying for a subscription.

In the old days you could pork fuel to 25% but they changed it because to many people complained about not being able to get to the fights with any fuel. I think killing Dar at the HQ did the same thing. Too often you would spend half the night with put any Dar, so things got changed.

People don't like to run supplies, people don't like to cap a base, people don't mind defending, but vulching stops to local upper and the horde is quick enough to get the bases before you can have defenders fly in. So in many case people don't like defending. So what does that leave, attacking. Unfortunately, as attacks become more successful more people join to be part of the winning team and now we have a horde.

Player bring this about but looking to have fun. I think players could be "guided" by game mechanics to do those things they don't want to do. Give them more perks to resupply HQ. Give them more perk/points to defend against the horde. Tie the acks strength to the number of enemy in a Dar circle, the bigger the horde, the more ack to give defenders time to up and defend. The smaller the horde, the less ack so small squads can still hit a base and have a chance.

There is plenty to do in the game, its just that a lot of it isn't fun, or glamorous, and you don't get a lot of recognition for doing it.

[Chilli]

Fugi,

I think that you and HTC are dead on.  We are so short attentioned.  My solution to HTC has been to make carrying troops MORE FUN. 

I love what they did with the troop animation.  Carry that a step farther, and let them shoot or blow things up.  Make C47s a formation and up the amount of troops.  Allow your chute running into a maproom to count toward captures (those things are hard to see and you can dip and hide once on the ground).  Have a Medic option for the M3 that is able to rescue "wounded" paratroopers and earn perks.

FUN ^^^^^^

After a while, it just becomes too stale when the uber leet pilots are able to fly their K4s, P38s, La7s, Me262s and Brewsters without anything to deter them.  The fight is always the same.  P38s and K4s always rope.   La7s and Me262s unshakable pursuit.  Brewsters pull out the grapling hooks and latch on to your six from the second they take off.  So, seen one P38 pilot and seen em all.

YAWN ^^^^^^^

[JUGgler]

you are so awesome that you hardly get killed in bombers.  perhaps u should try to bomb anything that has a couple of fighters over it.

semp

WTF does this mean?  please be more direct!!!! or take your typing hand out of your pants!!

BTW  I would PWN you as the "Boston Strangler"   

JUGgler

[guncrasher]

WTF does this mean?  please be more direct!!!! or take your typing hand out of your pants!!

BTW  I would PWN you as the "Boston Strangler"   

JUGgler

I know your cartoon pilot is better than my cartoon pilot.  but I bet my dad can kick your dad's arse  .



semp

[Tank-Ace]

Grounding Spitfires and Bf109s, two aircraft with larger draws for players, seems unwise to me.

Lol, no one has suggested grounding certian aircraft. We have an ENY 40 spitfire and an ENY 40 Bf 109. 109's aren't really low ENY either, lowest is 20. Biggest victems of the "ENY strat" (which I want, btw) will be perk planes, spittards, niki dweebs, and lala drivers. Can't think of any other low eny plane that doesn't have a higher ENY brother.

[hyzer]

Player bring this about but looking to have fun. I think players could be "guided" by game mechanics to do those things they don't want to do. Give them more perks to resupply HQ. Give them more perk/points to defend against the horde. Tie the acks strength to the number of enemy in a Dar circle, the bigger the horde, the more ack to give defenders time to up and defend. The smaller the horde, the less ack so small squads can still hit a base and have a chance.

Increasing the lethality of ack based on numbers in the Dar ring is a wonderful idea.  Simple in concept and deadly in practice. 

+1

 

[Wiley]

Lol, no one has suggested grounding certian aircraft.

They're referring to the fact that a 25% fuel spitfire or 109 is practically 'grounded'.

Wiley.

[Tank-Ace]

Who cares? If you can't fly anything else with even the barest level of competence, then even the EZ mode sptifres won't help you.

[Wiley]

Why does it always come down to 'EZ mode blahblahblah'?  Regardless of how easy or not they may be to fly, it's to do with limiting options.  109s and Spits are among the most popular planes in the game, they're also deeply penalized by limiting fuel.  The same can be said for the LAs, the I-16, and a bunch of other planes.  With only 25% fuel available, it renders a bunch of the planeset useless.

The vast majority of people don't like their choices being limited.  People barely put up with hangars getting bombed.  Giving the other side yet another way to make people unable to fly what they want is deeply unpopular.

Wiley.

[The Fugitive]

Why does it always come down to 'EZ mode blahblahblah'?  Regardless of how easy or not they may be to fly, it's to do with limiting options.  109s and Spits are among the most popular planes in the game, they're also deeply penalized by limiting fuel.  The same can be said for the LAs, the I-16, and a bunch of other planes.  With only 25% fuel available, it renders a bunch of the planeset useless.

The vast majority of people don't like their choices being limited.  People barely put up with hangars getting bombed.  Giving the other side yet another way to make people unable to fly what they want is deeply unpopular.

Wiley.

EXACTLY! It is also far easier to bomb fighter hangers, fuel, ord, troops, and so on than it it is to protect them. So people gravitate to those easy/fun things and avoid the tougher more boring things that need to be done to slow them down like cap fields, do fighter sweeps, run supplies, recon missions and so on. The war has become very one sided with everyone on the attack. So the Bish grab 10 fields from the Rooks in 8 hours, the Rooks grab 10 from the Knights, and the Knights only get 8 from the Bish (we all know the Knights suck  ) in the same 8 hours. So maps last forever.

What we need is people who want to defend. The trick is dangling the right carrot in front of them to get them to do it.

[Tank-Ace]

If we threaten with the inability to fly their dweeb planes, they'll either defend, fly something other than the %*#$fire 16, or just log off, leaving us with a less over-croweded arena. The fights can aford to lose the dead-wood anyway.