I am furious

[Tupac]

I never did say the flying was going to speed up his healing, so I dont see your point.

[sluggish]

But you're all about healing the animal... And catching the horrible person that hurt him.. And you yourself have caused the dog further stress by flying him around...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN77b9DqEbc

[Dichotomy]

Or, perhaps, he was trying to do something humanitarian while others sit on the sidelines and do nothing. 

Slug I'm with you on the protecting your kids front but attacking somebody for trying to do something positive in this world especially a young man is reprehensible at best.  Chill dude. 

Tup.. <S>

[sluggish]

Something positive would have been to pay the vet bill and adopt.

[Dichotomy]

*shakes head*

When you're perfect go ahead and throw stones.  If you ARE perfect.... fix the economy.  Then, perhaps, teenagers will be able to find jobs easily like I could when I was one. 

Let us all know when you reach perfection and will be working on that economy thing.   Now shoo along and get to work..

[Tupac]

sluggish why don't you make an account http://pilotsnpaws.org/forum/ there and go tell everyone (and the people they have helped) how they are doing a bad thing.

You won't.

[Tupac]

But you're all about healing the animal... And catching the horrible person that hurt him.. And you yourself have caused the dog further stress by flying him around...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN77b9DqEbc

Where did I say I was going to do 0 G? The pilot that did that to that dog was moronic. This dog is going to be in a crate in the backseat of my plane. It's alot less stressful than getting thrown in the cargo hold of a jet (the alternative)

[Penguin]

The question of animal abuse is a charged one, and can lead to some very strong comments.  For instance, one user wanted to shoot the perpetrator of the pellet gun crime thirteen times with what can be assumed to be a real firearm.  The idea of killing a human for abusing a human or an animal is absurd- do we see wife-beaters getting the firing squad?  No.

However, the paralell between pets and livestock does ring true.  Dogs are a common foodstuff in certain parts of Asia (and possibly other places as well); there is no sense in denying it.  However, even livestock raised for meat should be killed quickly and as painlessly as possible.  Leaving a dog that has lived its entire life in safety is anything but a quick or painless death.  In addition, the death of the dog will provide no meat, nor any other useful product, perhaps besides pleasure for the former owner if they were sadists.

In conclusion, killing or torturing people for abusing pets is an unethical means to an otherwise noble end.  If anything, they should (depending on their mental state) perform community service in the form of working at an animal shelter.  This could allow them to realize that animals do in fact suffer if abused.  For animals that grow only for their meat or hide, death should be quick, as opposed to the slow and agonizing death of life on the street without preparation.  Animal cruelty can elicit powerful feelings, but reason and logic should be our guiding light, not the violent fury of rage.

-Penguin

[guncrasher]

It's a volunteer thing, the pilots volunteer their services and plane. No money is being spent (besides the pilots buying gas)

it's a lot of money to buy that gas.  1/2 of the money donated would have saved a lot more dogs.  just my opinion.

semp

[EskimoJoe]

it's a lot of money to buy that gas.  1/2 of the money donated would have saved a lot more dogs.  just my opinion.

semp

How do you know that the money donated wouldn't go towards
the methods used to put those pups down?

[colmbo]

So... Do you think all of the added stress of flying the dog around helped in his healing?

Why do you think the dog was stressed by flying?  Mine used to sit by the all plexiglass door and watch the scenery go by -- far from stressed.

Just cuz you're afraid of flying doesn't mean the dog is. 

[DREDIOCK]

Yup.  People need to take responsibility for their animals and keep them on their own property.

I have a couple dogs. My female used to occasionally get out and run around.

Thing is. If I forget to lock my sliding glass door, she knows how to open the door and would jump the fence that was put up specifically to keep the dogs in the yard.

We didnt know this was going on at first. We would come home and yell at each other for forgetting to close the back door. Not because the dogs could get because hey. We had a the yard fenced in and the dogs were always home when we got there. Then one day someone was doing something in the yard next door that got her all excited. We watched in disbelief as she grabbed at the door and pulled it open and ran outside.

Ok. so now we know who was leaving the door open.

Couple days later. My wife is talking with one of the neighbors who then told us what we didnt know.
Every day after I left for work. She would see our female jump the fence and run around the neighborhood. She also wouldnt come when called either. but about 20 min before my wife would get home. she would jump back over the fence and into our yard again.

Why she didnt tell us sooner I dont know. But about a month later I get a phone call from one of our township police officers letting me know he had caught the dog and put her back in the yard.. I thank him ans ask him if he happend to attach her to the leash we decided to leave tied to the fence by the gate. Jusst in case we forgot to lock the dooor and the neighbor caught her. He said no. So I tell him she's probably going get out again.
About an hour after that I get another call from my vet. someone else has called saying they now spotted the dog running around, had her. but in writing the ID number down from the Vet tag we had on her she got away and he could catch her. Fortunately at this point I was on my way home.
I get home and there she is. Laying on the couch as if nothing happend and she was there all day.

Point is. The owner may not even know they were out or getting out.

[DREDIOCK]

I'm not going to take my chances with a possibly rabid dog.  People need to learn how to keep their animals in their yard.  My neighbors have two pit bulls that they can't seem to keep on a chain.  The last time they were in my yard, they were warned, through animal control, that I have a shot gun and am not afraid to use it.  I have young children and I will not be threatened by a stray animal and I'm tired of picking up trash.

The funny thing is..  They suddenly figured out how to work a dog chain.

Rabies worry for dogs is a completely BS argument born largely of ignorance rather then fact.

There are more than 72 million pet dogs in the U.S. and nearly 82 million pet cats.
http://www.avma.org/reference/marketstats/sourcebook.asp



Of those numbers in the US in 2009 there have only been 81 confirmed cases of rabies among dogs
In comparison to 300 cases in cats in the same year.
Thats according to the CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/features/dsrabies/




The chances of a dog on your property having rabies is minute at best.
With your kind of paranoia. Your better off shooting every other animal you see on your property then you are dogs. Because literally you stand a greater chance of encountering a rabid animal from just about any other kind of animal then you are from a dog.

Your logic other then in the case of the rare occasional aggressive dog, is complete BS. especially so if in the case you know the dog is owned and know who the owner is.

If your that paranoid then put up a damn fence. Course it wont save you from the animals that actually do produce a threat but what the hey.

Statistically speaking. Your kids are more likely to be hit by a car then to encounter a rabid dog. You shoot at cars too?

Or just send them out covered in bubble wrap and a helmet?

[sluggish]

Rabies worry for dogs is a completely BS argument born largely of ignorance rather then fact.

There are more than 72 million pet dogs in the U.S. and nearly 82 million pet cats.
http://www.avma.org/reference/marketstats/sourcebook.asp



Of those numbers in the US in 2009 there have only been 81 confirmed cases of rabies among dogs
In comparison to 300 cases in cats in the same year.
Thats according to the CDC
http://www.cdc.gov/features/dsrabies/

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The chances of a dog on your property having rabies is minute at best.
With your kind of paranoia. Your better off shooting every other animal you see on your property then you are dogs. Because literally you stand a greater chance of encountering a rabid animal from just about any other kind of animal then you are from a dog.

Your logic other then in the case of the rare occasional aggressive dog, is complete BS. especially so if in the case you know the dog is owned and know who the owner is.

If your that paranoid then put up a damn fence. Course it wont save you from the animals that actually do produce a threat but what the hey.

You need to do a better job keeping your animals on your property.  If you aren't up to the challenge then you should consider getting rid of them.  You never know when someone like me might move into the neighborhood..

I live in a very rural area. My neighbor has 10 acres... I have 5 acres...  My yard (the part that I mow and maintain) is quite small.  Why his dog felt it necessary to defecate in my little patch of grass is an unknown.  I convinced him to fix the problem by convincing him that I would fix the problem.

No problem

[F22RaptorDude]

Really?  You value the life of an animal, ANY animal, above that of a human (ANY human)?

That's sick.  Really sick.  You ought to examine what you really think about some things before you go spouting off stuff like this.

Besides animal game, sure i'm an animal lover, mainly dogs and cats