Collision Model

[chaser]

Yes I know these threads come up every few months and the weird things that happen with are caused from lag blah blah blah.. But really, is there no other way to model this?

The reason I ask is because today I was flying my Brewster in TT and twice I was dodging planes trying to pick me and they passed very close to me. I got "You have collided" both times while there was no message saying "so an so has collided with you". Both times I lost a wing and went down as I watched the other plane fly away with no damage. I don't fly planes that much anyways and stuff like this makes me avoid flying planes even more. Frustrating to have someone dive on me, get collision message, watch them fly away unharmed, and me fall to the ground. 

[Shuffler]

Yes I know these threads come up every few months and the weird things that happen with are caused from lag blah blah blah.. But really, is there no other way to model this?

The reason I ask is because today I was flying my Brewster in TT and twice I was dodging planes trying to pick me and they passed very close to me. I got "You have collided" both times while there was no message saying "so an so has collided with you". Both times I lost a wing and went down as I watched the other plane fly away with no damage. I don't fly planes that much anyways and stuff like this makes me avoid flying planes even more. Frustrating to have someone dive on me, get collision message, watch them fly away unharmed, and me fall to the ground. 

Go back and read. It has been explained a million times.

Repeating it here will do no good if you can't understand the previous explaination.

[Wiley]

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,294224.0.html

There, let's save everybody a whole bunch of time.

Wiley.

[chaser]

Go back and read. It has been explained a million times.

Repeating it here will do no good if you can't understand the previous explaination.

Clearly you need to go back and read my first sentence. again

[Wiley]

But really, is there no other way to model this?

Yes.  The alternative is to have it so that on your end, there will sometimes be a collision where your plane will take damage, even though the other plane appeared to pass by you missing you completely by yards.

Otherwise, no.  The current way of doing things and the above are the only two options.  HTC has chosen the lesser of two evils.  LWI.

Wiley.

[chaser]

Yes.  The alternative is to have it so that on your end, there will sometimes be a collision where your plane will take damage, even though the other plane appeared to pass by you missing you completely by yards.

Otherwise, no.  The current way of doing things and the above are the only two options.  HTC has chosen the lesser of two evils.  LWI.

Wiley.

I personally would much rather it be like that. I would rather go down with the other guy than me go down alone even if I was the one that didn't see the collision on my end.

[RTHolmes]

really? you want to take damage even though you didnt collide with the other aircraft?

[Wiley]

Him and about a half-dozen other guys.  I had a squaddie that was of the same opinion.  I don't get it, but good on them.  It won't change.

Wiley.

[The Fugitive]

As it is now it is near impossible to hit another plane with any regularity. Changed it the other way and you will have people "crashing" into you just to tick you off. No thanks.

[Shuffler]

Clearly you need to go back and read my first sentence. again

Clearly you need to read what you posted.

[chaser]

See Rule #4

[chaser]

As it is now it is near impossible to hit another plane with any regularity. Changed it the other way and you will have people "crashing" into you just to tick you off. No thanks.

Why is that worse than it is now with people making a close pass to you and you get collision and they fly away. Seems like it would discourage people from trying that if they wanted to keep flying.

[morfiend]

 Chaser,

  I can answer you because years ago I flew in a game that did just what you want,every plane had a hit "bubble" and if you flew to close and touched the "bubble" you both took damage and went down. Now the problems came as others would fly close enough to damage you when you were fighting their "buddy".

 Another issue was the"bubble" size changed with latency and you never knew how close was too close and could ram someone from behind yet they were just in firing range.  So I think I'd rather have what we have ingame,like Wiley said the lesser of 2 evils!    Maybe someday there will be no lag,then HTC can revisit the CM.


   

[Vulcan]

I said I knew that it wasw because of lag. And because of lag we have the current crappy collision model.

Geez stupid people. I feel sorry for them.

I think the collision model we have is the best, fairest, and far from crappy.

[Wiley]

Why is that worse than it is now with people making a close pass to you and you get collision and they fly away.

Simple.  It is better because what you see on your screen is what happens to your airplane.  Under the system you are proposing, if you pass close to the other plane, maybe you'll blow up, maybe you won't.  Under the current system, if you see your plane hit another plane, you take damage.  No guesswork about whether or not you're about to take damage because maybe his computer sees you hit him.

Wiley.