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Offline mensa180

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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2011, 12:30:19 PM »
AWwrgwy and grizz's posts should be mandatory in all future collision threads.
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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2011, 12:31:25 PM »
:rolleyes: Pretty much happens now, your lack of sight bothers me. The HOers at this point in time with the current model do the same. They Hold the trigger down aimed squarely at their enemy hoping he explodes before a collide. My idea wouldnt increase HOing it would merely keep the amount of HOing the same but improve the gameplay for the ones that enjoy knife fighting and not being heavily punished by lag that is out of thier control.

cmon now.   really?   IF YOU DON'T HIT ON YOUR END, THERE IS NO COLLISION ON YOUR END.  if you fly your airplane through another, then you have collision.  what you propose is being able to sometimes fly through another aircraft, depending on what HE sees on HIS end.  how would you know what he sees?   depending on his connection, sometimes you'd have damage, and sometimes you'd pass right through the center of him and fly off like nothing happens.  i don't see how my "lack of sight" could bother you.  i think i have a pretty firm grasp of how this works and why it is what it is.   you say it would help in scissors and knife fights?  how, pray tell??   IF YOU DON'T COLLIDE ON YOUR FRONT END, THERE IS NO COLLISION ON YOUR END!!  it's simple!  don't hit the other plane (this obviously goes for both pilots) and there won't be a collision!  what you propose would not be an improvement, it would be a detriment.   i can't explain it any simpler than that.  say what you will.  
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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2011, 12:32:15 PM »
You are not punished as long as you do not run into planes on your front end.

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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2011, 12:33:11 PM »
You are not punished as long as you do not run into planes on your front end.

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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2011, 12:34:43 PM »
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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2011, 12:36:31 PM »
I know, I have a way with words. :aok

i wish i did, i wouldn't have to type so much!    :lol
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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2011, 12:56:32 PM »
How do you see it if you are afk?
I went afk to take a leak once, came back and was in the tower with a "you have collided" message in the buffer. I got an earful for being a ram tard. I actually was recording for some reason. Watched it and the guy made like 4 passes on me before flying through me and taking us both down.  :lol 




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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2011, 01:15:15 PM »
You are not punished as long as you do not run into planes on your front end.

Need to restate this as:

"You are not punished as long as there is no collision with your plane on your front end."


I think the issue the OP has in this particular film is he, and others who complain about the collision model, is trying to place blame for the collision and the individual "at fault" should be punished.

All the complaints seem to be, "I was flying along, minding my own business. Someone made multiple passes on me while I did nothing, and I "collided" and he flew away undamaged.

There is no "blame". It's like getting hit by raindrops.

It's like complaining about getting rear ended in your car because you "were just sitting there"... in the middle of the highway.



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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2011, 02:54:55 PM »
Need to restate this as:

"You are not punished as long as there is no collision with your plane on your front end."


I think the issue the OP has in this particular film is he, and others who complain about the collision model, is trying to place blame for the collision and the individual "at fault" should be punished.

All the complaints seem to be, "I was flying along, minding my own business. Someone made multiple passes on me while I did nothing, and I "collided" and he flew away undamaged.
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There is no "blame". It's like getting hit by raindrops.

It's like complaining about getting rear ended in your car because you "were just sitting there"... in the middle of the highway.



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You don't understand what happened. I was trying to avoid pickers and both times they came screaming through my plane and took off one of my wings. I was doing everything I could to avoid them. It's not like I was trying to force a collision. I just don't see how its fair for them to make a close pass on their end and on my end they fly through me. I wouldn't like it even if I was on the other side. I'm still liking the idea that both ends have to register a collision for either plane to take damage.

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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2011, 03:40:52 PM »

You don't understand what happened. I was trying to avoid pickers and both times they came screaming through my plane and took off one of my wings. I was doing everything I could to avoid them. It's not like I was trying to force a collision. I just don't see how its fair for them to make a close pass on their end and on my end they fly through me. I wouldn't like it even if I was on the other side. I'm still liking the idea that both ends have to register a collision for either plane to take damage.



So now your saying you DIDN'T avoid the collision and your made because you took damage.  :huh

Be cause they DID avoid the collision you want them to go down too?

If you make it so that BOTH FE's have to see a collision your going to see more and more people try to get even closer and you'll find yourself going down with damage even more than you do now. No thanks, I'll trust to my skills to avoid running into a plane and staying out of trouble that way.

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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2011, 04:02:26 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2011, 04:06:56 PM »

You don't understand what happened. I was trying to avoid pickers and both times they came screaming through my plane and took off one of my wings. I was doing everything I could to avoid them. It's not like I was trying to force a collision. I just don't see how its fair for them to make a close pass on their end and on my end they fly through me. I wouldn't like it even if I was on the other side. I'm still liking the idea that both ends have to register a collision for either plane to take damage.


Please explain something to me: Why is it better to have what you see on your screen not always be what is counted against you?

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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2011, 04:35:58 PM »
Stop thinking in single reality terms.  The problem is with you.

so yea lemme try to follow you I'm flyin mindin my own business dude misjudges his speed and that's my fault.....and he gets a kill and flies away with little to no dmg........sound about right?
I understand how the lag thing works but that still pretty much sucks, plain and simple. Plus I was just making a comment I understand why and how this happens.
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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2011, 05:06:14 PM »
so yea lemme try to follow you I'm flyin mindin my own business dude misjudges his speed and that's my fault.....and he gets a kill and flies away with little to no dmg........sound about right?
I understand how the lag thing works but that still pretty much sucks, plain and simple. Plus I was just making a comment I understand why and how this happens.

Thats right. On the other had you been paying attention and maintaining good SA you would have seen the loser coming and would have most likely been able to avoid him.

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Re: Collision Model
« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2011, 06:21:50 PM »
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