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Offline gyrene81

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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2011, 03:22:04 PM »
Quote from: Tilt on October 06, 2011, 03:02:37 PM
IMO the icons (we have now) over compensate for this.............
+1 would be nice if the icons weren't like giant neon signs.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2011, 03:28:16 PM »
Quote from: Bino on October 06, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
Only if something is done about tanks killing aircraft with the main gun.  If it was not possible in RL, it should not be possible in the game, IMHO.   :salute


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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2011, 03:31:56 PM »
I think that a icon should still be present however at shorter range. See the tank before the icon, then get closer to identify. Your hearing this from a player who's main activity in game is air to ground support.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2011, 04:06:04 PM »
This has been brought up countless times before, and those threads have had many valid, reasonable, and viable points (all the while being polite and cordial) to have the gv icon reduced or even removed.

However, it is not what HTC wants, so it I am doubtful it is going to happen.    :(   This is one of those arbitrary figures that only HTC knows why they settled on the value they did.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2011, 05:41:05 PM »
No.

If the aircraft is low enough to see icon it's close enough to be shot down by Flack Panzer's.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2011, 06:03:48 PM »
Quote from: lyric1 on October 06, 2011, 05:41:05 PM
No.

If the aircraft is low enough to see icon it's close enough to be shot down by Flack Panzer's.
Ok but what if the layout of the icon was not like it is, what if it is only a discrete "<" pointed at the gv and it is up to you to know wich tank that is.
Or at least maybe change it to the name of the tank only when REALLY close and low speed. i mean i has to be hard to I.D. thru the icon wich specific tank that is (using the panther or tiger logic)

what could also be done would be relative to the speed and altitude,if you are under 1.5 distance of the gv but you are way to fast the lil icon still wont show  :D
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2011, 08:02:15 PM »
Quote from: gyrene81 on October 06, 2011, 02:46:01 PM
you don't really want to go there when it comes to gv's do you?

Sure, why wouldn't I? I might not know s**t about GVing but I sure do know something about flying.

Sure from 10,000ft it might be a little difficult to spot a car (never tried spotting tanks in real life), but from 5,000ft it can be easily done. In AH from 5,000ft I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a tree and a tank (which is a lot bigger than a car). I'm even going to go as far as saying that it's easier to spot a horse (which is the same color as the ground) in real life than it is to spot a tank in Aces High.

HiTech knows this, that's why he added icons.



The only problem I have with our icons is when your flying at 10ft AGL you should not be able to see an icon for a tank 3.5K out, especially when you have trees in the way. So when your bellow 500ft the icon range for GVs should be reduced. Everything else should stay the way it is.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2011, 08:51:11 PM »
Only way no icon would even work is if you have a AvA style fight. Your flying along over a GV fight with Tiger IIs all over the place which one do you bomb or shoot? Not all GV fights are two lines shooting at each other. 200 would be ablaze if you bombed one of you own.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2011, 11:18:31 PM »
Quote from: MachFly on October 06, 2011, 08:02:15 PM
The only problem I have with our icons is when your flying at 10ft AGL you should not be able to see an icon for a tank 3.5K out, especially when you have trees in the way. So when your bellow 500ft the icon range for GVs should be reduced. Everything else should stay the way it is.

Icon range for GVs from aircraft is 1.5K.

What's the secret to seeing an GV icon from 3.5K?



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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2011, 11:22:07 PM »
Quote from: AWwrgwy on October 06, 2011, 11:18:31 PM
Icon range for GVs from aircraft is 1.5K.

What's the secret to seeing an GV icon from 3.5K?



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It's 1.5K? Really?
I was sure that it's 3.5K...

If it is indeed 1.5K that it should defiantly stay the way it is.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2011, 02:02:44 AM »
sure remove icon from gv's, but also dont allow the gv's to have access to their location on the clipboard. just let them know where they're spawning and let them find their own way to the base/town.  also gv's cant see icons either.  that includes friendly or foe.  if we cannot tell our gv's apart from theirs, since there's no icon, they shouldnt be able to tell their own airplanes from enemies.  and btw kill shooter is on  :D.


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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2011, 03:52:41 AM »
I'd like to see the GVs' icon range made into a variable based on what it is doing at the time. A stationary non-firing GV's icon is visible over the shortest range, while a moving GV's icon is visible further out the faster it goes. Firing the main gun gives the biggest jump, but only for a few seconds. A newly spawned GV has no icon for say 10 seconds unless it moves off or until it fires or moves its turret.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2011, 05:45:54 AM »
-1   GV's need to be seen otherwise they will take all of our bases and sit on the end of runways all day long.

It would be a new low for Aces High.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2011, 08:49:23 AM »
Quote from: Greebo on October 07, 2011, 03:52:41 AM
I'd like to see the GVs' icon range made into a variable based on what it is doing at the time. A stationary non-firing GV's icon is visible over the shortest range, while a moving GV's icon is visible further out the faster it goes. Firing the main gun gives the biggest jump, but only for a few seconds. A newly spawned GV has no icon for say 10 seconds unless it moves off or until it fires or moves its turret.

Is that (variable icons) possible with the coding?  I can't think of anything else in the game that is variable in a similar manner.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2011, 10:39:25 AM »
It would need new code to be written, but I think it would be more realistic than what we have now. In RL moving or firing GVs would be a lot more visible than stationary ones. It shouldn't need any more net traffic as position and speed data etc. gets transmitted to other players in the vicinity anyway.
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