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Offline chaser

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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2011, 01:23:46 AM »
+1 I would love having no icons on GV's.

Quote from: Bino on October 06, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
Only if something is done about tanks killing aircraft with the main gun.  If it was not possible in RL, it should not be possible in the game, IMHO.   :salute


Well I think I a pilot is dumb enough to come in shallow enough to be killed by a main gun he deserves it lol. I know better than to attack a tank in a shallow dive. Its not a hard concept to understand. The pilot knows the risk he's taking and sometimes pays for it.

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Offline tokenjo

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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2011, 11:50:39 PM »
I think the question was more pertaining to the give away
of the type of gv?  Not whether they are on or off? 
Why bother taking a perk ride only to be attention
of the bombers/attackers.  I would just have the icon be general,
has in displaying tank or ack.  Something to to that effect anyway.

Tokenjo
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Offline MachFly

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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #32 on: October 10, 2011, 12:20:48 AM »
Quote from: tokenjo on October 09, 2011, 11:50:39 PM
I think the question was more pertaining to the give away
of the type of gv?  Not whether they are on or off? 
Why bother taking a perk ride only to be attention
of the bombers/attackers.  I would just have the icon be general,
has in displaying tank or ack.  Something to to that effect anyway.

Tokenjo

We can make it like airplanes. Lets take Spitfire for example, when you see it from 5K out it just says "Spit", but when you get close enough you it tells you whether it's 5 or 14. We can make the same with tanks that look alike, but not all. You should be able to easily tell the difference between a T-34 and a Tiger.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2011, 10:47:18 AM »
The only tanks that are hard to see are the ones in a cluster of trees.

Those would be impossible to see at nearly any range.

Probably should leave friendly icons on, though.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2011, 04:30:05 AM »
Quote from: Bino on October 06, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
Only if something is done about tanks killing aircraft with the main gun.  If it was not possible in RL, it should not be possible in the game, IMHO.   :salute


moin

 the guner of otto carius killed a IL2 with his 8,8 gun in real live.
its just not inposible  ;).

i would like to see the ikon of or just down to 500 yards or so, it will help the hole game play i think.
in real live it was realy hard to find enemy gvs only if thay made mistakes you were able to find them.

at the moment its not nice to take cover under trees or bridges but my red ikon shows everone were i em :-(.

cu christian
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2011, 07:11:43 PM »
NO! shortening the visual distance was enough of a hindrance. You can't even see the con until 2k, if you start your dive on a field at 6k you can barely maneuver enough to drop without re-climbing and diving again after spotting. This game is in NO WAY equal visually, so these icons make up for that reality loss. IMO  :banana:
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2011, 02:45:49 PM »
If the Icon cannot be turned off because of coding issues, at least reduce visibility to the minimum setting for one Tour of Duty
and observe the results. It does not have to be permanent.

The bomb-guys were in full force last night LOL.

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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2011, 02:50:17 PM »
IMO GV icons are too short as-is. Especially since you don't SEE a wirbl icon until you're inside lethal range for the guy shooting at you. They should be 3.0 if not more for enemy GVs.
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Offline trigger2

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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2011, 04:22:05 PM »
Quote from: AWwrgwy on October 06, 2011, 02:54:53 PM
I do.

At 10,000 feet, a car IRL doesn't look like this     .

It looks like a car.

In game at 5000 feet, a tank looks like this    .

My main reason for saying NO! The icons give data that would be able to be seen IRL that can't be due to the graphical limitations of our monitors and how display works. Distance is overdone by the size of the object. From the air, you'd be able to ID the country, tank type, color of the paint, and if Fritz has his head poking out of the hatch or not. In here, if you're not 5Ft AGL going >100MPH, you'll never be able to get that information.

Second reason, most airstrikes on enemy vehicles were done either by 1) Attacking convoys (most of our players don't really travel in convoys) spotted in flight. 2) Attacking know movement patterns of vehicles (in which case, we'd know where, when and what) or 3) Requests called in by ground units which would include location, type, and how many. None of this information we can gather accuratly without the icons.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2011, 04:29:55 PM »
I've decided to help AH reduce GV icon complaints by bombing only GV hangers for awhile.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2011, 04:56:25 PM »
Well, that's only fitting, as you fly bombers most of the time....









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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2011, 05:10:38 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on October 26, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
IMO GV icons are too short as-is. Especially since you don't SEE a wirbl icon until you're inside lethal range for the guy shooting at you. They should be 3.0 if not more for enemy GVs.
Don't you love it when you are chasing an enemy on the deck and he runs to a Wirble you can't even see?
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2011, 07:27:39 PM »
Maybe a quicker fix that would work would be to eliminate the icon that specifies what type of GV it is (i.e. Tiger, Panther) and replace it with a general icon that say "AFV" (Armored Fighting Vehicle).  That way you see the GV icon but you dont know what it is unless you go close in and see.  What do you guys think?

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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2011, 08:11:56 PM »
Quote from: BigKev03 on October 26, 2011, 07:27:39 PM
Maybe a quicker fix that would work would be to eliminate the icon that specifies what type of GV it is (i.e. Tiger, Panther) and replace it with a general icon that say "AFV" (Armored Fighting Vehicle).  That way you see the GV icon but you dont know what it is unless you go close in and see.  What do you guys think?

BigKev
No, anything that allows Whirbelwinds and Ostwinds to hide is bad.

In my prior post, it wouldn't be as bad if the friendly aircraft also had a 1k icon range to his Whirbel friend, but he has a magical 6k icon where I have a 1K icon.  I might not even see the Whirbel until it is firing at me.
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Re: Turn Off The Icons For Enemy Ground Vehicles !
« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2011, 12:42:53 AM »
boo-hoo?  :ahand  :cry
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