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Offline SmokinLoon

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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2011, 08:37:52 AM »
You let the actions of others dictate your level of entertainment?  

While I agree that it is a sad event when others use shade accounts, jump sides at the drop of a hat, etc etc, may I suggest you limit your focus on "winning the war" or even "capturing the field", and instead focus more on what you like to do.  If that coincides with the actions of a movement then great, you've just contributed towards something.  But otherwise, just your game and enjoy yourself.  Trust me.   ;)

Also, remember that no matter how well you score, how many perk points you earn, or how many kills you land you simply can not put that on a resume'.  Most people forget that part.   :aok
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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2011, 08:49:28 AM »
other than the hiding of the cv in the mountains which I agree is lame, on your other points you seem to be drawing conclusions based on very little information.

why would a gv need an enemy "watch dog"? maybe the guy couldn't find the gv at first? who knows.

two sunk cv's? who knows. s happens. maybe a noob general thought 2 cv's going to the same place was so cool, and they got found.

friendly wouldn't engage? maybe he was low on fuel or needed to take a dump. maybe he didn't see the con. who knows.

why would you jump to concluding it is a grand conspiracy of bad gameplay?

Concerning the watchdog; How many times have you thought about upping a flashing base but had another mission in mind. Then you see someone is there so you say hey, it's being covered and then head on your way. It's a psychological thing. You think it's being covered and it's not. Further, when I was on my way I saw the supposedly friendly and he never once dove on the tank until he saw me. The base had been flashing for quite some time. Further it was fully deacked. My guess he was directing the guy to the town acks as well. Then add to that the guy covering went back to his country the next day.

Now the CV's, they were almost perfectly parallel to each other, both sunk at the same time and in the middle of the ocean. Not even close to an enemy base. I don't think that is coincidence.

I'm not jumping to anything. I know what I saw.

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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2011, 08:52:08 AM »
You let the actions of others dictate your level of entertainment?  

While I agree that it is a sad event when others use shade accounts, jump sides at the drop of a hat, etc etc, may I suggest you limit your focus on "winning the war" or even "capturing the field", and instead focus more on what you like to do.  If that coincides with the actions of a movement then great, you've just contributed towards something.  But otherwise, just your game and enjoy yourself.  Trust me.   ;)

Also, remember that no matter how well you score, how many perk points you earn, or how many kills you land you simply can not put that on a resume'.  Most people forget that part.   :aok

Well yes, try playing any game where it is stacked against you and see how long you enjoy it.

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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2011, 09:02:43 AM »
Concerning the watchdog; How many times have you thought about upping a flashing base but had another mission in mind. Then you see someone is there so you say hey, it's being covered and then head on your way. It's a psychological thing. You think it's being covered and it's not. Further, when I was on my way I saw the supposedly friendly and he never once dove on the tank until he saw me. The base had been flashing for quite some time. Further it was fully deacked. My guess he was directing the guy to the town acks as well. Then add to that the guy covering went back to his country the next day.


ok, possibly.  but still, there are other possible explanations as well.  at worst, you have 2 dorks playing with themselves. It's not the end of the world/game.


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Now the CV's, they were almost perfectly parallel to each other, both sunk at the same time and in the middle of the ocean. Not even close to an enemy base. I don't think that is coincidence.

I'm not jumping to anything. I know what I saw.

which was my point, just because you saw one thing, doesn't necessarily mean that thing was going on.   :noid

don't get me wrong, there is plenty of bad gameplay out there, your examples aren't the best though.
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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2011, 09:05:03 AM »
It has nothing to do with taking the game too seriously.

surely no one who has ever read your posts could possibly accuse you of taking the game too seriously Fugitive


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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2011, 09:10:06 AM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2011, 09:15:13 AM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2011, 09:16:41 AM »
Well it sounds as if the OP is making inference to side switching in order to gain some advantage over the opposing force. If that's the case, then what can be done about it? IIRC, HTC had a real issue about this with a member of the community. I think it involved switching sides in order to find and then "rat out" the cv's or go and sink them himself. Once it was discovered that this was taking place, I think the culprit got hit with a one week ban, or something along those lines. If memory serves, this incident hastened the return of the 12 hour limit on side switching.

So with this being said, how do we address this problem? Do we really have the ability to police our own? Could not the Moderators be given some additional authority to deal with this when it happens, provided they are made aware of it at the time? Or perhaps upping the time limit on side switching to say 24 hours? As a rule, I don't switch sides, but understand why some do, and that any increase in the time limit (is it still 12 hours) will hamper legitimate reasons for doing so. However, I feel this increase may serve as a way to discourage the aforementioned activities subsequent to a possible ban of some time  levied against the offender.

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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2011, 09:18:35 AM »
Wow.  Some people have way too much time to play both to do these things (if they were as interpreted), and to let them bother you.
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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2011, 09:21:48 AM »
 :salute Nutz. True we don't have the ability to police others and that shouldn't be our job anyhow, but I think that if the moderators had more power to take care of this kind of thing in real time we might get somewhere.
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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2011, 09:25:07 AM »
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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2011, 09:25:52 AM »
Wow.  Some people have way too much time to play both to do these things (if they were as interpreted), and to let them bother you.
With all due respect sir, to look the other way and not say anything...is that not condoning this behavior? Surely you don't agree that this the the way to go about things.
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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2011, 09:42:30 AM »
With all due respect sir, to look the other way and not say anything...is that not condoning this behavior? Surely you don't agree that this the the way to go about things.


Seems to me that you're always going to get this sort of thing when you have "goal-oriented" people playing.

I can see how it would be troubling to other goal-oriented people.

On the other hand, I've noticed that the offenders in these accounts usually are people that even I can shoot down.

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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2011, 09:49:01 AM »
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Re: Absolutely the poorest gamesmanship I've seen.
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2011, 10:04:58 AM »
With all due respect sir, to look the other way and not say anything...is that not condoning this behavior? Surely you don't agree that this the the way to go about things.

I didn't say I condone it.  I just can't let it bother me.  If I did there's much worse things going on in real life and I don't plan on checking out there either.

I saw two things mentioned; a known bug that lets someone hide a CV in a mountain.  For that I'll awat a fix from HT.  The second is alleged spying.  That's been around since AW.

Lame yes.  Earth shattering no.

I get more upset by runners, pickers, HOers, vulchers and ack huggers but I don't let those examples of lame gameplay bother me either.  I can always choose to go play on a different part of the map.
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