109 damge Q

[Ruah]

So I am not a long time 109 expert like some of you out there, but the past 2 days I have been experiencing a lot of one ping engine outages (radiator too. . .the worst kind).  Am I the only one, or am I just flying a lot worse.  I know I am not that great to begin with, but its just been really frustrating.

anyway, not a cry, not a whine, just wondering if I am the only one - or - maby I was just lucky until now.

[curry1]

I always felt like 109s were susceptible to radiator hits.

[Tank-Ace]

Well the engine makes up a fairly large percentage of the target profile in high angle of attack shooting, and in turn fights. If you've been doing a lot of HO'ing, thats also probably part of the issue.

[MachFly]

That's one of the main reasons why I never fly the 109, seems like every hit takes out the radiator or fuel.

[Ruah]

no HOing - I don't ho.  its a matter of pride.  I will even pass on 3/4 shots sometimes because I would rather take the loss then the possibility of that perfect shot.

No this has really been in the past 2 days.  Every ping i take has all been radiator shots.  Just wondering if its become worse somehow. . .  I guess I have to become even more defensive.   

[Tank-Ace]

I haven't noticed many more radiator or engine hits than if I was flying, say, a P-51 or a Ki-61, MachFly.

Yeah, a few more maybe, but it probably turns out to be in the range of 17/100 pings = engine/radiator hit instead of 12/100.




I don't know what to tell ya Ruah. I've never expierenced any of the problems people so often encounter. I've never had a rubber bullet problem, I've never had non-kill tater hits, I've never had one-hit problems.

Might just be a problem with your perception or something.

[MachFly]

I haven't noticed many more radiator or engine hits than if I was flying, say, a P-51 or a Ki-61, MachFly.

I don't really fly those two so I would not know. Quite possible that it's just me (and Ruah).

[sunfan1121]

When flying a 109 it's better not to get shot at. 

[PR3D4TOR]

I wonder if the in-game "damage box" covers the whole radiator housing including the flaps, or just the radiator itself.

[pervert]

Its cliche damage modelling the 190 d is actually worse for rad hits I have had 8 sorties in a row ended with speculative sprays and 1 hit pings, you might as well go psycho and all out attack whats attempted to ho you, you have about 2 minutes tops before your engine fails. 109 could divert to run on one radiator but thats not modeled in game.

[MachFly]

I wonder if the in-game "damage box" covers the whole radiator housing including the flaps, or just the radiator itself.

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Is that "damage box" made to actually absorb fire or is it just there for the airflow?

I'm thinking it's probably for the airflow. 

[Slade]

a lot of one ping engine outages (radiator too. . .the worst kind)

Concerning engine outages (radiator etc.), I don't see 109 as being any worse than other planes.

As a baseline, one plane that is very suceptable to radiator hits is a Tiffy.  109 does not compare.  Tiffy is like a magnet for radiator hits!

[curry1]

Concerning engine outages (radiator etc.), I don't see 109 as being any worse than other planes.

As a baseline, one plane that is very suceptable to radiator hits is a Tiffy.  109 does not compare.  Tiffy is like a magnet for radiator hits!

Its got dat bullet scoop.

[STEELE]

Its cliche damage modelling the 190 d is actually worse for rad hits I have had 8 sorties in a row ended with speculative sprays and 1 hit pings, you might as well go psycho and all out attack whats attempted to ho you, you have about 2 minutes tops before your engine fails. 109 could divert to run on one radiator but thats not modeled in game.

I agree, the Dora is almost COMICAL with rad hits.  I've gotten pinged from DEAD six, not 1 degree off angle, and the rad goes out.  More than 20 times.  
In the War, a 109 would never blow an engine from a lucky 50 cal rad ping, it was so easy to bypass the damaged radiator with a quick turn of a valve.
I say any plane built with a radiator bypass should absolutely have it modeled in AH, otherwise it's just completely inaccurate.
  A few of German rides are already hit with         (190A8 with its 1.58 ata boost instead of the 1.65 that was used on every single A8 springs to mind)

[Krupinski]

I want my two radiators modeled in the 109, for the spits too.