was the 410 50mm ever used for tank busting?

[moot]

And the aircraft BK5 might be slower mv.  I know there were issues with the 410 initially not being able to cope with the recoil, for whatever reason.  Development kept going till about the end - there was a faster (40 rpm?) BK5 in R&D.

[Reschke]

If I remember correctly the only Luftwaffe aircraft that did well with the cannon was the Ju-88 but they tried to upgun it in testing to carry the 75mm version and that didn't go as well as the 50mm. I forvet which book I read that in but the Ju-88 was only a test bed that never flew as more than 5 aircraft in process so the program never made it to production.

[Tank-Ace]

And the aircraft BK5 might be slower mv.  I know there were issues with the 410 initially not being able to cope with the recoil, for whatever reason.  Development kept going till about the end - there was a faster (40 rpm?) BK5 in R&D.

The BK5 was just an automatic version of the KwK 39 50mm L'60. I don't think it used a reduced propellant charge or shortened barrel (which would result in lowered muzzle velocity) or anything.

[moot]

Yeah I left that unspecified for that reason.  Didn't know if it's the gun that was adjusted, or the airframe interface, or what.

[nrshida]

I wonder how HTC is going to accommodate the telescopic sight, something like the bombsight mode in bombers?

[Lusche]

I wonder how HTC is going to accommodate the telescopic sight, something like the bombsight mode in bombers?

The easiest way would be to skip the BK5 loadout. No need to model the telescopic sight, and less risk of 2k sniping on buffs 
(But if this really would happen, there would still enough reason for buffs to fear the 410... MK 103 anybody?   )

[nrshida]

Can't miss the BK5 out, the only really interesting feature would be the long range sniper option 

[Lusche]

Can't miss the BK5 out, the only really interesting feature would be the long range sniper option 

 

Well, as you can guess I'm even more eagerly waiting on the Mk 103. 200 rounds carrying the destructive power of a MK108 combined with the trajectory of a .50 cal. 

Speaking of trajectory, I made a quick & simple graph comparing German cannons. The source is original data from Erprobungstelle Rechlin. I tried to use similar type of rounds (mine) when possible:




Performance in AH may be somewhat different for individual guns depending on which shell being simulated.

[Pyro]

I've seen a number of pictures of 410's with the BK 5 mounted but no scope.

[Wmaker]

Yeh, it certainly would be cool to see it modelled like the tank's sighting station for example but I was thinking that it probably won't happen. After the novelty wears off it would probably end up being more of a hinderance than help as it reduces the forward visibility due to being bigger than a regular Revi.

Interesting sight though.

Pictures from: http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/instrumente/katalog/revi/revi.htm

[nrshida]

Nice! Does it mention the magnification? I know sniper rifle scopes from the time weren't very powerful.

Great graph Lusche, look at that 50-mm round go! You really get a good feel for ballistic coefficient comparing the projectiles on that graph. The poor FF 

[Krusty]

Aces High's "zoom" is really to help bring out the details the human eye can see. However, it also does this by zooming in. I think that will take care of the need for a special telescopic view. Just like you can zoom in with the B-25H to try and hit your targets better.

[Lusche]

Great graph Lusche, look at that 50-mm round go! You really get a good feel for ballistic coefficient comparing the projectiles on that graph. The poor FF 

And the Mk 103 has almost the same, but throws much more explosives at the enemy. The BK can shoot 3 rounds in 4 seconds, two MK 103 will fire about 48-56 rounds in the same time. 

[Baumer]

The combination of the Mk 103 with the 410's cockpit view is going to make for some excellent deflection shooting I suspect. I think there are quite a few good shots who will have plenty of fun when it arrives.

[moot]

I've seen a number of pictures of 410's with the BK 5 mounted but no scope.

KA CHING