Just spent some more time in the TA doing spins in the 38L.
You guys that are able to recover, any chance you're using some aileron in your recovery technique?
If I used the standard spin recovery of throttles idle, ailerons neutral, opposite rudder and forward stick the spin rotation would increase slightly and did not recover from the spin.
I myself can not rule out what I had tested before if I had used any aileron unput or not...... I did not film them after 2 or 3 others posted they were able to recover...... at that point it was almost 50 / 50 either some could or some could not...... I can go redo the test again if need be.... if it is necessary to spend more time on this issue
I do think that something or someone is doing something different or settings are possibly different, when I see Delirium post that he had trouble trying to recover the right spin ....... but what ever it is I do not know
I use the spin recovery steps in the following order
S - Stick nuetral / Stick push full forward
T - Throttle off
O - Opposite Rudder to counter the Spin direction
P - Pull stick back gradually as speed increases to level out of dive
I have always used this technique for spin recovery for Tail spins / incipient spins........
I understand that an incipient spin is not what one would call a "developed spin"......... it is a spin in the first 1 to 2 rotations
and was figuring that is why Badboy posted he let his test drop 2 K to get a fully developed spin going so as their was no confusion of his test data / film
edit: I should note that on 1 or 2 of my tests for the Right Spin recovery, that it seemed to take a few seconds longer to gain recovery.......... the Left Spin Recovery recovered much more quickly than the right direction......... but it was a matter of seconds ...... I would say under 12 or 10 seconds difference....
hope this helps
TC