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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2012, 11:35:33 PM »
The Yaks aren't really among the most popular planes. They have two qualities (shared by the Yak-3) that seem to make them less popular: short range, low ammunition load.
you dont need more than 10 20mm rounds + 30-ish .50 cal rounds to knock out a plane.

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2012, 12:52:29 AM »
You miss the point though. People aren't saying the Yak-3 is similar enough to the Yak-9 that we just don't need it, they're saying that its similar enough that we can use the Yak-9 as a substitute in special events, and that since it probably won't raise the overall useage of yaks (all models, -3, -9T, and -9U numbers combined) in the MA's by any noticable degree, its less of a priority than other aircraft that would we don't really have a good substitute for in Special Events, or that would have more of an impact on the MA's.
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2012, 02:34:38 AM »
You miss the point though. People aren't saying the Yak-3 is similar enough to the Yak-9 that we just don't need it, they're saying that its similar enough that we can use the Yak-9 as a substitute in special events, and that since it probably won't raise the overall useage of yaks (all models, -3, -9T, and -9U numbers combined) in the MA's by any noticable degree, its less of a priority than other aircraft that would we don't really have a good substitute for in Special Events, or that would have more of an impact on the MA's.

If the Yak-3 was introduced you'd see it probably as much as you do the Spitfire in the LW arena.

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2012, 04:04:47 AM »
If the Yak-3 was introduced you'd see it probably as much as you do the Spitfire in the LW arena.

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This is the point I have been trying to make this whole time.

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2012, 04:17:19 AM »
If the Yak-3 was introduced you'd see it probably as much as you do the Spitfire in the LW arena.

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2012, 08:38:54 AM »
If the Yak-3 was introduced you'd see it probably as much as you do the Spitfire in the LW arena.

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2012, 09:06:47 AM »
If the Yak-3 was introduced you'd see it probably as much as you do the Spitfire in the LW arena.

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I highly doubt that.  I'd agree if it were a post war Yak-3 with a VK107 engine, but a wartime Yak-3 with a VK105, not so much.  It will maneuver better than a Yak-9U, but not all that much better and it will not climb anything like a Spitfire Mk VIII or XVI while having what is for most people light firepower with a short ammo clip.
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2012, 06:22:00 PM »
If the Yak-3 was introduced you'd see it probably as much as you do the Spitfire in the LW arena.

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I'm not sold on that. Sure, for a while, it would be just about every other plane in they sky (just like the A6M3 was for a while almost the only CV plane out there, and 3 out of every 4 bombers was a Betty when it was introduced), but after the new wears of, people would probably go back to their old plane. A lot of the hardcore Yak-3 sticks would likely be converts from the Yak-9's.
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2012, 07:34:37 PM »
I'm not sold on that. Sure, for a while, it would be just about every other plane in they sky (just like the A6M3 was for a while almost the only CV plane out there, and 3 out of every 4 bombers was a Betty when it was introduced), but after the new wears of, people would probably go back to their old plane. A lot of the hardcore Yak-3 sticks would likely be converts from the Yak-9's.

Im not a hardcore Yak pilot as much as I used to be but I would go back if they introduced the Yak-3!
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2012, 07:44:23 PM »
Yes, I'm sure everyone would fly the Yak-3 for a while, because its new. EVERY new addition has that effect. I haven't seen one that doesn't at any rate.

But the question is, how long would you go back to the Yak-3 for? Would you make it your main ride, or one of them? Or would you take it out for a few spins, decide its a bit better than the Yak-9, replace said yak in your favorites list with the Yak-3, and then ignore it for the most part, as most will do?


Its HIGHLY similar in preformance to our Yak-9U. I think its about 7mph slower, and climbs about 400ft/min better.
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2012, 08:22:12 PM »
Its HIGHLY similar in preformance to our Yak-9U. I think its about 7mph slower, and climbs about 400ft/min better.
How about turn rate, radius and roll rate?
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2012, 08:40:37 PM »

Its HIGHLY similar in preformance to our Yak-9U. I think its about 7mph slower, and climbs about 400ft/min better.

It was lighter, easier to fly and more maneuverable than the Yak-9, in addition to having a smaller airframe.

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2012, 12:41:51 AM »
Not sure about turn or roll Karnak. Clearly going to turn better, just don't know exactly by how much. Also, our 109F will allegedly make a tighter circle than a spitfire Mk V, but that doesn't mean turn fighting a spitfire is the smartest thing you can do.


AKAK, that doesn't mean its engine-based preformance (climb, speed, acceleration) aren't similar. We can make due without a Yak-3 in the special events far easier than we can make due without an He-111 for early setups, or (even though I don't much support this plane) a Ki-43 for the PTO events.

And there are other planes that would add more to the MA's.


Way I see it, it has neither much priority from a Special Events standpoint, and it wouldn't had a whole lot to the MA's. Why bother fixing a leak in the roof when you're missing a large section of your wall?
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #73 on: January 10, 2012, 05:41:39 AM »
I don't think so AKAK - it  does not have enough bullets.

Agreed though, it would be an amazing plane and I for one look forward to flying against them as well as in them.  Its clear from the last poll that the Yak3 will come - just not before the 410.

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2012, 06:38:55 AM »
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Wait I just noticed that post got banned? why did skuzzy ban that post when all i said was good?

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