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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2012, 09:23:59 AM »
If so, then anything a marine's adversary does to him is OK, in your view.  Are you REALLY sure about that?  I have problem if you feel that way, but don't hold a double standard.  Also, the Twin Towers attacks have little link with those fighters.  It is unlikely that those kids had ever encountered, much less consorted with the organization responsible for the attacks.

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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2012, 09:31:47 AM »
Hmmmm Taliban responsible for the Twin Towers and who are they urinating on??? Taliban fighters?? Guilty by association.
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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2012, 10:19:09 AM »
You do not understand.

You are a moron, please stop posting in this thread.

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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2012, 10:56:33 AM »
Penguin I am all for your free speach rights, but your way off when you put down our service members. I stand proud of my 20 year in the army, and if you think peeing on dead bodies is horrible you set really low standards. Iv watched a HUMVEE blown a hundred feet in the air and listened to the screams ove my buddies burnning to death. I have done and seen things in combat that would have you in the fetal position sucking your thumb. So here I sit just like many times before, I make some coffee and light a cigarette and say "its better to be pissed off than pissed on". Red 4 out.
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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #49 on: January 16, 2012, 11:04:26 AM »
 :salute :salute :salute :salute to all soldiers first off.  I have never been in the military, I have never been in their shoes, but I do remember the video of them beheading our guy over there.  my dad was in vietnam, he has told me some things, but other things he says he wont tell anyone, because of what they did over there.  But in the same sentence THEY did the same things to OUR guys also. so war is war, just my 2cents

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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2012, 11:27:30 AM »


Furthermore, in the case of the World Wars, especially World War II, there were well codified laws governing the treatment of POW's, civilians, etc.  Breaking those laws is a war crime, and each and every person who committed such crimes deserves punishment (and if mentally damaged, rehabilitation).



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Those laws against war crimes never stopped any country from committing war crimes past nor present.

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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2012, 11:33:33 AM »
Those laws against war crimes never stopped any country from committing war crimes past nor present.

You can kill them, but do it nicely.  :rolleyes:

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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2012, 11:36:46 AM »
If so, then anything a marine's adversary does to him is OK, in your view.  Are you REALLY sure about that?  I have problem if you feel that way, but don't hold a double standard.  Also, the Twin Towers attacks have little link with those fighters.  It is unlikely that those kids had ever encountered, much less consorted with the organization responsible for the attacks.

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You really don't know when to stop do you?

These people you're calling "mentally ill", are giving YOU the rights to speak. Those people you believe shouldn't be pissed on, have been cutting soldiers up into bite size pieces. They don't care about anything, they've used their children as weapons; can you even imagine the horror these soldiers go through everyday?

Before you say something stupid, because i know it's a bit of a habit for you, sit down, breath and thank god you're at home.
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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2012, 11:39:13 AM »
agreed fyb :cheers:

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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2012, 11:49:31 AM »
Penguin you've already violated the portion of wisdom that says it's better to be thought an idiot than to open ones mouth and prove it is true.

Now it is time to follow another bit of wisdom that says when you find yourself in a hole it is best to stop digging.

All tongue in cheek aside, you really do not have a perspective regarding mental health, conduct in combat or even barracks life experience. It is fine to deplore the act but it is folly to sit in judgement of those whose experience you cannot fathom any more than a person totally blind from birth can comprehend the color orange. Rather than sit on your mount olympus and cast judgement on the individuals from your vast store of experience in life, you should hold your comments to the minimum.

Combat, war, whatever you call, it is not logical, not glorious, not fun, not sane and not easy to deal with day in and day out. There are no non casualties in combat. Everyone takes some kind of wound mentally if not physically.

The act is not good because it does nothing to help end the conflict and will instead feed the propaganda machine, building more resistance to completing the conflict and getting our troops home. That is the single one thing that is the most wrong about it. A secondary negative to it is that it tends to lower the support our troops need to continue the conflict our politicians have been unable to solve any other way.

In some ways the men and women in WW2, especially in the Pacific, had it more difficult than our troops do in the 'stan and irag. They would understand the act but also know it is a result of the circumstances rather than a problem in character. Someday you may understand but I would not wish the experiences on you that would give you that understanding.
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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2012, 11:50:21 AM »
frickin double post, sigh.
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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2012, 12:33:24 PM »
If so, then anything a marine's adversary does to him is OK, in your view.  Are you REALLY sure about that?  I have problem if you feel that way, but don't hold a double standard.  Also, the Twin Towers attacks have little link with those fighters.  It is unlikely that those kids had ever encountered, much less consorted with the organization responsible for the attacks.

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Its not ok for us to do that to them, but its ok for them to do that for us?

I guess the man their pissing on that killed 7 of their brothers and fellow soldiers is innocent?
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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2012, 12:51:18 PM »
Can we agree that 9 out of 10 americans would have pissed on em too?
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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2012, 12:53:43 PM »
Those laws against war crimes never stopped any country from committing war crimes past nor present.

That's like saying that burning down an orphanage and shooting the survivors as they run out is OK if the police don't catch you.

You can kill them, but do it nicely.  :rolleyes:

Have you even read the laws of war?  They cover far more than you think, such as POW treatment, acceptable collateral damage, lawful vs. unlawful combatants, etc.  If you are truly for shooting civilians, torturing captured soldiers to death, and expelling the populations of conquered countries from their homes in order to make way for one's own, then be open about it.

You really don't know when to stop do you?

These people you're calling "mentally ill", are giving YOU the rights to speak. Those people you believe shouldn't be pissed on, have been cutting soldiers up into bite size pieces. They don't care about anything, they've used their children as weapons; can you even imagine the horror these soldiers go through everyday?

Before you say something stupid, because i know it's a bit of a habit for you, sit down, breath and thank god you're at home.

The last time I checked, we shot first in 1991.  The odds of those insurgents being terrorists is very low, considering the fact that it took this video to bring their deaths to light.  If they were really terrorists bent on destroying the US, the media would have been all over it since day 1, pee or no pee.  Also, even if they were terrorists, it is unlikely that they could really take over the US.  It would be the 18th century all over again, and only by luck did the conditions needed for a single federated America come to be.

Penguin you've already violated the portion of wisdom that says it's better to be thought an idiot than to open ones mouth and prove it is true.

Now it is time to follow another bit of wisdom that says when you find yourself in a hole it is best to stop digging.

All tongue in cheek aside, you really do not have a perspective regarding mental health, conduct in combat or even barracks life experience. It is fine to deplore the act but it is folly to sit in judgement of those whose experience you cannot fathom any more than a person totally blind from birth can comprehend the color orange. Rather than sit on your mount olympus and cast judgement on the individuals from your vast store of experience in life, you should hold your comments to the minimum.

Combat, war, whatever you call, it is not logical, not glorious, not fun, not sane and not easy to deal with day in and day out. There are no non casualties in combat. Everyone takes some kind of wound mentally if not physically.

The act is not good because it does nothing to help end the conflict and will instead feed the propaganda machine, building more resistance to completing the conflict and getting our troops home. That is the single one thing that is the most wrong about it. A secondary negative to it is that it tends to lower the support our troops need to continue the conflict our politicians have been unable to solve any other way.

In some ways the men and women in WW2, especially in the Pacific, had it more difficult than our troops do in the 'stan and irag. They would understand the act but also know it is a result of the circumstances rather than a problem in character. Someday you may understand but I would not wish the experiences on you that would give you that understanding.

Regarding the fact that war being bad making it more difficult to convince people to fight one is a matter of politics.  So is the 'propaganda machine' you speak of.  I won't discuss those as a matter of not breaking the rules.

Thus barring those thorny subjects, we can proceed into whether those men are mentally ill.  First you said that my lack of combat experience prevents me from arguing that those men are sick.  However, it does not take a genius or fellow soldier to realize that peeing on dead bodies is not a sign of a healthy mind.  In a self-contradictory way, you then argued that all soldiers become that way.  However, that in and of itself is judgement, and also relates back to the thorny issue of popular support mentioned above.  

Its not ok for us to do that to them, but its ok for them to do that for us?

I guess the man their pissing on that killed 7 of their brothers and fellow soldiers is innocent?


You are partially correct.  If you hold that one side may pee on the other's dead, then you also hold that the other side may do likewise unto the first.

Can we agree that 9 out of 10 americans would have pissed on em too?

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Re: U.S. Military responds to urination on enemy corpses
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2012, 12:56:30 PM »
They are dead i'm not, thats a cause of celebration, with no cake they thought pissing on em would have the same effect
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