Why horde?

[Tank-Ace]

Matt, Herr vTWI.... I mean TROOPER.

1) the whole 'war' boils down to 25 perks in each category (about maybe an hours worth) and a new map......the new map is only sometimes better than the current one.

2) we get an infinite number of lives. I can go crash into the ground 1000 times in a row, and still do it an infinite number of times after that.

Since our cartoon war is pretty much pointless, and we risk nothing by dying, then wouldn't it make sense to play for the fight and to improve, rather than to win a war that you have no stake in?

[BowHTR]

While i pretty much cant stand the way the v-dudes are flying and playing the game, they are FAR from being the worst.
Except that ominose vTARD (couse he is a real tard) they will never try to insult you. Also they never try to vulch in tempests/c-hogs as a commonly beloved squad does as their daily routine.

Other question that destroying all the hangars only not to meet any opponent then take a practically undefended base would never ever could give me any fun... yea thats pretty low in my dictionary, but thats just me.

Let me offer something: if any vdude would like to became an uber fighter pilot, contact me, i will try to help him in improving. I know i got serious lingual disadvantages, still i will try as i can.
Couse bashing them for not knowing how to fight is one thing... Doing something to change it is an other.

Destroying hanges is just a way we do it. That how our squad works, yes there are many ways to go about it. And we do change things up from time to time; HOWEVER, when we are only 3-4 bases from winning the war, we will flatten a failed just to ensure its capture.

Also, I will be sure that the next time i am on we will attempt at taking a base with dropping all the hangers. We will leave all fighter hangers up but VH and BHs will most likely go down. I will even go out of my to send you a PM and tell around what time we will do it, then all you have to do is look for the dar bar. No i wont announce it and im not making a bet saying that you cant stop us, but for the fun of things i will give you a estimate of 30min of when we will take off and let you figure out the rest.

[Rob52240]

Matt, Herr vTWI.... I mean TROOPER.

1) the whole 'war' boils down to 25 perks in each category (about maybe an hours worth) and a new map......the new map is only sometimes better than the current one.

2) we get an infinite number of lives. I can go crash into the ground 1000 times in a row, and still do it an infinite number of times after that.

Since our cartoon war is pretty much pointless, and we risk nothing by dying, then wouldn't it make sense to play for the fight and to improve, rather than to win a war that you have no stake in?

I prefer to take bases, if it's a good map I don't take any joy in resetting it.  If I don't like the map I love it when it gets reset asap regardless of who's doing the base taking.

And Tank Ace, not one of your vINSULTS will help any member of my squad see things your way.  If you want to have a discussion, take part in it.  Hurling insults that aren't even clever is the way children and politicians try to prove their point, not adults.  If you want a seat at the big boys table, you need to act like one first.

ps.
When you brag about how many v guys you kill on the forum, you sound a lot like those gamblers who always say they break even.  You know, the guys who go to the casino, immediately lose $50 then win $10 and somehow feel as though they're ahead.

[Tank-Ace]

And blatanly lying about your squad's method of operation to try and look better for the public is a sign of maturity? Go give trooper an ear full before you come to me with that argument.

[Rob52240]

I'll just take more of your airfields.

[Debrody]

stuff

  I tell you what will happen: i will be there alone in a 109 G6 getting killed over and over in the simmilar way: cant catch your faster planes running while 3 others are closing on my six. As it happened many times.
Our games and goals are completely different. You want the base/war, i only want a good turnfight.
   I made an offer: i would try to teach one vdude to everything i know, if theres one who is up for it. Its not any kind of insult, dont take it that way please. Its a kind of challenge for me, what can i do, and an opportunity for him, if he wants to learn ACMs and became a top notch fighter pilot in 2-3 months. It may open a window to him to see this game from another viewpoint and would allow him to get more fun and success.
   Please tell it to your squad, and if there is anyone up for it, send me a PM here or in game.
 

[BowHTR]

more.....stuff..

i will, and i can guarantee someone will take you up on the offer, and if they dont, i will personally. I am always interested in learning something new.  
 

[BowHTR]

And blatanly lying about your squad's method of operation to try and look better for the public is a sign of maturity? Go give trooper an ear full before you come to me with that argument.

Proof please...

[DangerousGame]

Another thread on hordes 

 Yea  have to read the forms every once in a wile to remember why I don't read the forms 

[68ZooM]

And blatanly lying about your squad's method of operation to try and look better for the public is a sign of maturity? Go give trooper an ear full before you come to me with that argument.

who really cares other than you tankace er umm Nemisis, someone that does not even play the game. go do your chores and maybe mom will pay your account so you can come back and show us all just how good you are 

[JOACH1M]

who really cares other than you tankace er umm Nemisis, someone that does not even play the game. go do your chores and maybe mom will pay your account so you can come back and show us all just how good you are 

He's got nothing better to do but piss and moan about something. It is funny because he is a active and acts like he knows how the game play is. Makes me wonder what shade he is flying as.

[guncrasher]

Again I am all for the hordes, I think they are healthy and the "new norm". What is not "community healthy" is the relative lack of challenge to the hordes!
                                                                                        


JUGgler

but we dont even know what is "community healthy".  we all think that our way of playing is better than anybody elses and that our way is better for the community.  perhaps the people who you want to help find a "challenge" dont want help as they dont see it as having a lack of challenge.

for example:  many people make fun of me because i cant land a spitfire wheels down (actually i land most airplanes wheels up, faster to get another).  they have even taken the time to teach me, i actually got some pm's the other day when i made a comment about it.  well even though i appreciate the advise, to be honest with you, I have no interest in learning to land spitfire wheels down.  coudnt care less and if they made a rule that you had to land wheels down to get full points, I still wouldnt learn it as I dont see it as making the game any more fun for me.

I wonder how many people who fly in the hordes only, have no interest in learning the game as they are only here for a couple of hours just to pass time.  and they dont see furballing/fighting 1v1 as something that they want to learn to make the game anymore enjoyable.  and those who do want to learn will learn it on their own time if and when they get "bored" of "hording".


semp

[JUGgler]

but we dont even know what is "community healthy".  we all think that our way of playing is better than anybody elses and that our way is better for the community.  perhaps the people who you want to help find a "challenge" dont want help as they dont see it as having a lack of challenge.

for example:  many people make fun of me because i cant land a spitfire wheels down (actually i land most airplanes wheels up, faster to get another).  they have even taken the time to teach me, i actually got some pm's the other day when i made a comment about it.  well even though i appreciate the advise, to be honest with you, I have no interest in learning to land spitfire wheels down.  coudnt care less and if they made a rule that you had to land wheels down to get full points, I still wouldnt learn it as I dont see it as making the game any more fun for me.

I wonder how many people who fly in the hordes only, have no interest in learning the game as they are only here for a couple of hours just to pass time.  and they dont see furballing/fighting 1v1 as something that they want to learn to make the game anymore enjoyable.  and those who do want to learn will learn it on their own time if and when they get "bored" of "hording".


semp

I could care less if peeps wish to learn or not, I find this argument ridiculous in its own rite. What noob would like to learn from me by flying "clean" in a 1v1 and getting waxed 2 turns after the merge for hours on end just to "LEARN"-----> NONE, I hope!

I do not wish folks to play "my way". I see a disparity, an odd consiquence to changes that I (and many others) think could be improved. If you think my motivation is that "I want to win all the time" hence me, me, me. Then why would I up at stupendously ridiculous odds and lose time and again? That is hardly winning, and it is hardly me, me, me. I actually think the "war" aspect of this game, If properly set up could improve it imeasurably, folks perform better when they have something to gain or lose, yes even in a silly game!


As it is now I see (for the most part) the "war game" as heavily one sided with little motivation to either hold what you've gained or defend what you might lose.




JUGgler

[guncrasher]

I could care less if peeps wish to learn or not, I find this argument ridiculous in its own rite. What noob would like to learn from me by flying "clean" in a 1v1 and getting waxed 2 turns after the merge for hours on end just to "LEARN"-----> NONE, I hope!

I do not wish folks to play "my way". I see a disparity, an odd consiquence to changes that I (and many others) think could be improved. If you think my motivation is that "I want to win all the time" hence me, me, me. Then why would I up at stupendously ridiculous odds and lose time and again? That is hardly winning, and it is hardly me, me, me. I actually think the "war" aspect of this game, If properly set up could improve it imeasurably, folks perform better when they have something to gain or lose, yes even in a silly game!


As it is now I see (for the most part) the "war game" as heavily one sided with little motivation to either hold what you've gained or defend what you might lose.




JUGgler

dont take it personal as I didnt mean it that way.  and it wasnt directed at you specifically even though i quoted you,  but more at all of us and our ideas of how the game should improve/going down the drain because we like/dont like this or that.

sorry if it came out as against you but that was not my intention .

semp

[The Fugitive]

Destroying hanges is just a way we do it. That how our squad works, yes there are many ways to go about it. And we do change things up from time to time; HOWEVER, when we are only 3-4 bases from winning the war, we will flatten a failed just to ensure its capture.

Also, I will be sure that the next time i am on we will attempt at taking a base with dropping all the hangers. We will leave all fighter hangers up but VH and BHs will most likely go down. I will even go out of my to send you a PM and tell around what time we will do it, then all you have to do is look for the dar bar. No i wont announce it and im not making a bet saying that you cant stop us, but for the fun of things i will give you a estimate of 30min of when we will take off and let you figure out the rest.

...and is also a way to avoid fights.

This is a horde, granted this is one of Chewies hordes, but the are all the same. Please note that there are more names on the list, and also not the altitude of the attackers. This was another NOE attack on a base. I did get to up 3 times and get 6-7 kills before the hangers were dropped and the "fight" if that is what you want to call it, was over.



If someone could tell me how to fight a horde with even a 30% chance of beating them I'd shut up about them and practice doing it. No I'm not going to spend what little free time I can play the game porking bases. No I am not going to spend what little time I have to play the game capping what may or may not be the next target (never can tell because there is never any rime or reason to the "next attack" other than it's an undefended field.

Getting a half a dozen kills before the hangers go down base after base as the horde moves around isn't my idea of fun, but I do it to try and slow them down. When I get bored with that, or frustrated with the lack of fights and too many deaths, I switch to flying WITH the horde. Of course then I get to practice my shooting so I can avoid the kill shooter, get yelled at for stealing someones kills, and have other give me crap when I give them a check 6 they weren't "wanting"