Storch Can Pick Up Downed Pilot to get a Landed Rescue Message

[caldera]

I bet if you were carrying 8 when you got gang-banged you'd love your mommy to come pick you up.  If you say no, you're a liar. 

No.  No to your hypothetical "carrying 8" scenario and no to lying about it.  I don't get off on having my name in lights. 
Which is what this is all about: "Look at me everybody, I landed killz!"  Not if you got shot down, you didn't.

[tmetal]

In an effort to push this topic along to a different part of the dead horse than the current part -

I have a question for caldera, Karnak, and RTHolmes (and anybody else that agrees with their view). I understand you view on a pilot rescue feature being used in the MA's; what I am curious about is how you would feel about a pilot rescue feature for FSOs and scenarios use, with the stipulation that development and inclusion of a pilot rescue feature in FSO/scenarios wouldn't take away from development of other features/planes to be added?  Keep in mind I am just asking to satisfy curiosity and am in no way trying to be rude or sarcastic.

[Karnak]

I think it would be useless in FSOs or scenarios.  It does nothing other than make busy work while people wait.  Even if it is done at the end of the frame it still requires people to wait to be picked up rather than calling it a day and simply declaring that people who get a "bailed" were recovered and people who get a "captured" were captured.  I highly doubt that a significant number of flyers were pulled out of enemy territory by aircraft rescuing them.  Further, using the Storch as the referenced plane, it breaks down on bombers as rescuing the pilot of the B-17, Lancaster, G4M or Ju88 would hardly result in the manning of another such bomber.

[Changeup]

No.  No to your hypothetical "carrying 8" scenario and no to lying about it.  I don't get off on having my name in lights. 
Which is what this is all about: "Look at me everybody, I landed killz!"  Not if you got shot down, you didn't.

Sure, lol

[Ack-Ack]

Ridiculous answer....this is the answer of the score worrier.  How many German pilots were shot down repeatedly?  They lose their kill credits?  No.  Quit worrying about how it affects your score

They weren't credited for a successful landing either.

ack-ack

[Shifty]

In an effort to push this topic along to a different part of the dead horse than the current part -

I have a question for caldera, Karnak, and RTHolmes (and anybody else that agrees with their view). I understand you view on a pilot rescue feature being used in the MA's; what I am curious about is how you would feel about a pilot rescue feature for FSOs and scenarios use, with the stipulation that development and inclusion of a pilot rescue feature in FSO/scenarios wouldn't take away from development of other features/planes to be added?  Keep in mind I am just asking to satisfy curiosity and am in no way trying to be rude or sarcastic.

I can't see them being useful in FSOs, Scenarios.. Maybe. Still I would score any rescued pilot as a safe bail nothing more. Nor would his name appear in lights unless the message went something like.
SYSTEM: Pilot Name safely landed his Storch after rescuing Pilot Name who got his butt shot down by Pilot Name.

[kvuo75]

I think it would be useless in FSOs or scenarios.  It does nothing other than make busy work while people wait.  

exactly. we did a special event a few yrs ago, I think a BoB.. where if you got shot down.. you could bail, and wait for a goon to "rescue" you.. enemy could not shoot chutes or goons.. we walked around on the deck waiting for goons.. you'd have to report that you wanted to be picked up,  and a CM would have to go and view us getting "picked up" by the goon, and then we could re-up... all it ended up was half our side walking around waiting for someone to park a goon near us..  

[JUGgler]

Then Sir KnowItAll,

With your logic Hitech should simply pull the Storch as a usless POS and get on with asking you for what you think should be on his HoneyDo list each day. I'm just trying to give it something to do worth while other than be gun fodder for any popgun in the game.

Since the game is still based on free association it would be up to the two players involved to participate. Meaning it's something they agree with each other to do and no skin off your postierior. Or have you been hired recently to be the game nanny? Do we check in with you now to preflight our diapers and make sure they are on clean and tight? I got a truck load of Depends for you to inspect and fluff in that case......extra fluffy. Do you wash windows to?

Oh my!


No need to read any further, got my fix! 



JUGgler

[tmetal]

thanks for the answers Karnak, shifty and kvuo75.  I did not know they already tried pilot rescue in FSO.

[muzik]

It just occurred to me. The one valid argument that any of you Jealous Jennys have, has a simple solution.

It COULD be a problem if too many people decide to ask for a pick up. And it makes perfect sense to assume this although I dont think that it would be as popular of an option as some of you girls think.

Simple fix: NO COMMUNICATION FROM DOWNED PILOTS!

Whiners are so clueless.

Oops. Sorry. Back to my point. A pilot downed behind enemy lines had little to no access to comms, so it's fair enough to say that neither should you. The only way to get a pick up should be if you report that your going down before the bail or ditch. And if you cant stop crying about this compromise, then they could even go so far as to make a pick-up a squad only function where only a member can pick-up another member.

And the only way to find said pilot is if someone covers him from the sky until the storch arrives or the storch pilot gets very lucky.

A simple fix and an even better adventure than the original idea.

[RTHolmes]

I still dont think it would be used, who wants to wait 15mins+ to turn a captured into a bailed?

[Shuffler]

I like that I could get 2 kills shooting down a storch carrying a downed pilot.

I don't like the fact that one of my squaddies coming to save me would have to land anywhere near me. Have you seen how we in the 80th land? I'd probably use my 45 to just put myself in the tower.



I just thought of something...... if killshooter is on and I use my 45 as stated above..... does the game crash?

[RTHolmes]

 

[caldera]

The problem is with them getting a "landed kills" message when they were shot down.  So player X gets two kills and lands is the same as player Y getting two kills and then shot down?  Just because player Y has squaddies or lackeys that want to preserve his score or get him his precious "kills landed" text bar glory? 

It can't be counted as "kills landed" because he came back in a different plane than he left in.  If the Storch pilot were to get:"player Z rescued two pilots in a Storch", that would make sense.  The rescued pilot didn't do anything, so why should he get anything?

[Karnak]

It just occurred to me. The one valid argument that any of you Jealous Jennys have, has a simple solution.

It COULD be a problem if too many people decide to ask for a pick up. And it makes perfect sense to assume this although I dont think that it would be as popular of an option as some of you girls think.

Simple fix: NO COMMUNICATION FROM DOWNED PILOTS!

Whiners are so clueless.

Oops. Sorry. Back to my point. A pilot downed behind enemy lines had little to no access to comms, so it's fair enough to say that neither should you. The only way to get a pick up should be if you report that your going down before the bail or ditch. And if you cant stop crying about this compromise, then they could even go so far as to make a pick-up a squad only function where only a member can pick-up another member.

And the only way to find said pilot is if someone covers him from the sky until the storch arrives or the storch pilot gets very lucky.

A simple fix and an even better adventure than the original idea.

Ever hear of Teamspeak, Ventrilo, Skype or phones?

Yeah, all the "no communication" bit would do is block random people.

Think a bit before posting, "whiner".