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Offline EVZ

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Ramming Speed!
« on: February 04, 2012, 10:07:40 AM »
Probably an OLD rant? but -I- really wish (Hostile) Midair Collisions left no survivors. I'm not sure what the criteria IS for surviving a midair. I've been told several different things by people whose info is generally reliable ... REAL aircraft SELDOM survive midair collisions and certainly are unable to continue to fly and fight as if nothing has happened. RAMMING seems to be a 50/50 ATTACK TACTIC employed consistantly by some people who can't even manage a decent HO ... If that's what it takes, so be it ... but they shouldn't fly away from it to do it again, just because the dice came up lucky for them.
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Offline Jayhawk

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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2012, 10:16:14 AM »
It is incredibly hard to intentionally ram someone in game. 

Damage is done to your aircraft if you "see" a collision on your end.  I think you'd end up find it even more frustrating if you were flying and clearly missed another plane but still received the damage from it.  This is a concession we have to make due to the internet.
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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2012, 10:59:13 AM »
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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2012, 11:03:20 AM »
It is incredibly hard to intentionally ram someone in game. 


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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2012, 11:18:39 AM »
Probably an OLD rant? but -I- really wish (Hostile) Midair Collisions left no survivors. I'm not sure what the criteria IS for surviving a midair. I've been told several different things by people whose info is generally reliable ... REAL aircraft SELDOM survive midair collisions and certainly are unable to continue to fly and fight as if nothing has happened. RAMMING seems to be a 50/50 ATTACK TACTIC employed consistantly by some people who can't even manage a decent HO ... If that's what it takes, so be it ... but they shouldn't fly away from it to do it again, just because the dice came up lucky for them.
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just because your flying was poor enough NOT to avoid the collision, the other guy shouldn't be punished for flying better and AVOIDING it. What you see on your computer will ALWAYS be different than what the other guy sees on his due to lag.

Offline AWwrgwy

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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2012, 11:25:57 AM »
I was just reading about a P-61 that RTB'd with an 8" diameter tree stuck in it's wing.

Fix the trees.

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Now, are we talking about the collision model again or a damaged plane, missing a big chunk of wing or horizontal stabilizer due to a collision, continuing to fly?

It makes you wonder.
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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2012, 11:38:55 AM »
Probably an OLD rant? but -I- really wish (Hostile) Midair Collisions left no survivors. I'm not sure what the criteria IS for surviving a midair. I've been told several different things by people whose info is generally reliable ... REAL aircraft SELDOM survive midair collisions and certainly are unable to continue to fly and fight as if nothing has happened. RAMMING seems to be a 50/50 ATTACK TACTIC employed consistantly by some people who can't even manage a decent HO ... If that's what it takes, so be it ... but they shouldn't fly away from it to do it again, just because the dice came up lucky for them.
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Offline 4Prop

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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2012, 12:15:19 PM »
its even funnier when the other person is charged with the collision and you take all the damage in the world and they dont have a scratch

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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2012, 12:22:05 PM »
It is incredibly hard to intentionally ram someone in game.  



The story: I was de-acking a town in a 109K4 (which is surprisingly effective), and in comes a 262 with a smoking engine. The evil grin on my face just got 10x wider. With only ~20 taters left, I try to spray him down from d800. No luck, I'm all out of ammo. He then loses his smoking engine, I start peppering him with the MGs from d1000 down to d200. Only a handful hit (yea, I suck at aiming), and he's still flying. "It's a Me262", I tell myself, "all 262s MUST die."

The inevitable:


Who else can say they rammed a 262 from behind?  :devil  :D :bolt:





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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2012, 12:28:17 PM »
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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2012, 12:32:21 PM »
Those pictures do not show what you think they show.

Sense of humor. Gone.


  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2012, 05:16:44 PM »
its even funnier when the other person is charged with the collision and you take all the damage in the world and they dont have a scratch

Bullets.

You collided with his bullets. Or was he just flying to close so you could see him wave hello?

There is no charged with the collision.


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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2012, 05:21:48 PM »
its even funnier when the other person is charged with the collision and you take all the damage in the world and they dont have a scratch

You obviously have no idea how collisions work as that is not possible.

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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2012, 06:13:34 PM »
You obviously have no idea how collisions work as that is not possible.

I might not but thats definantly happend. It happend a few days ago and numerous times before that

Offline EVZ

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Re: Ramming Speed!
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2012, 08:08:31 PM »
You obviously have no idea how collisions work as that is not possible.
I think what 4 prop is refering to is the message recieved in the text buffer ? It may say "you have collided with" or it may say "so & so has collided with you." This seems to indicate someone is being tagged as responsible.

As for those who think Collisions are HARD TO DO ... Let me introduce you to a couple guys who will do it to you 5 times straight in 5 passes.

It gets old FAST, but regardless of the cause, If 2 people collide & 2 people go down. There will soon be a lot fewer collisions.
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