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Offline VonMessa

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Re: Drug test
« Reply #45 on: February 09, 2012, 07:36:11 AM »
Quote from: homersipes on February 09, 2012, 05:57:22 AM
in my experiences with welfare, its not so much drugs but people cheating the system.  when we work on homes the occupants must meet certain income levels, I think its 200% poverty which for a house of 3 I think its like 33000.  we have been to homes where people have a brand new chevy 3/4ton truck and 3 bandy new snowmobiles on top of a brand new trailer.  I think thats where people take the system they lie to get it and nobody checks up on this sort of thing.


^^^^^  This

Same goes for child support.  I have seen grown men come into court and cry the blues about being broke and jobless.  Then the prosecutor asks how they are paying the $500/ month car loan for their Mercedes.  This is about 5 seconds before the judge sends them to county fr the weekend to have time to think about how they are going to sell that car...

I'm all for helping folks get a leg up, but I'm not into supporting their recreational habits or lavish lifestyle from the sweat of MY brow...
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2012, 07:42:29 AM »
I hope you don't have to get tested to fly a cartoon corsair and talk a lot of noise.
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2012, 07:49:15 AM »
Quote from: TheAssi on February 09, 2012, 07:42:29 AM
I hope you don't have to get tested to fly a cartoon corsair and talk a lot of noise.

Bored?

Lack of imagination?

Prostate exam too rough?
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2012, 07:56:26 AM »
Quote from: VonMessa on February 09, 2012, 07:49:15 AM
Bored?

Lack of imagination?

Prostate exam too rough?

A little bored.

Probably can't imagine what is going on in that cell.

Maybe a rough prostrate exam.
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2012, 08:16:18 AM »
Quote from: TheAssi on February 09, 2012, 07:56:26 AM
A little bored.

Probably can't imagine what is going on in that cell.

Maybe a rough prostrate exam.

You can relieve some boredom by fixing your photobucket account...
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2012, 08:33:15 AM »
Quote from: VonMessa on February 09, 2012, 07:36:11 AM

^^^^^  This

Same goes for child support.  I have seen grown men come into court and cry the blues about being broke and jobless.  Then the prosecutor asks how they are paying the $500/ month car loan for their Mercedes.  This is about 5 seconds before the judge sends them to county fr the weekend to have time to think about how they are going to sell that car...

I'm all for helping folks get a leg up, but I'm not into supporting their recreational habits or lavish lifestyle from the sweat of MY brow...

Are you kiddin? I have rental property with people making less then $15 an hour and afford bran new mercedes and audi's. I mean its awesome how well people can save and juggle money. I sure as hell can't afford $400 a month for 5-7 years, I've been wanting to trade in both my second hand vehicles and put a nice down downpayment on a second hand four door truck.

/None of my tenants deal drugs, grams just pass away and they blow money like hot cakes.


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Re: Drug test
« Reply #51 on: February 09, 2012, 08:43:01 AM »
Quote from: Butcher on February 09, 2012, 08:33:15 AM
Are you kiddin? I have rental property with people making less then $15 an hour and afford bran new mercedes and audi's. I mean its awesome how well people can save and juggle money. I sure as hell can't afford $400 a month for 5-7 years, I've been wanting to trade in both my second hand vehicles and put a nice down downpayment on a second hand four door truck.

/None of my tenants deal drugs, grams just pass away and they blow money like hot cakes.




I'm not sure if I completely understand what you mean.
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #52 on: February 09, 2012, 09:01:18 AM »
a guy was hired at my company passed the drug screen and finished new hire training on friday. Come monday morning the computer spit out his name for a random drug test and was fired that afternoon. He partied all weekend because he got the job. Pee test are not the best indicator of drug use if they want to know for sure they take hair samples, it gives a complet history like rings in a tree.
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #53 on: February 09, 2012, 09:10:01 AM »
Quote from: TheAssi on February 09, 2012, 07:56:26 AM
A little bored.

Probably can't imagine what is going on in that cell.

Maybe a rough prostrate exam.

well why dont you do something worth while with your time and TAKE THE MUPPET logo of you avatar.....you are not now nor have you ever been a MUPPET, so stop pretending you are anything more than the dog poop SkyRock would scrape off his shoe with a stick!!!

why am i not amazed at just how pathetic a human being you are?????? is the world really gotten so lame that i am no longer amazed that people like you are suffered to survive birth in our society?

now onto the active conversation of this thread, i personally think that drug testing should be done on a regular basis after they legalize and tax weed. use the revenue from the taxed weed to pay for the drug tests to cover harder core drugs that actually cause problems (i.e. crack, heroine)
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #54 on: February 09, 2012, 09:40:54 AM »
Quote from: AHTbolt on February 09, 2012, 09:01:18 AM
a guy was hired at my company passed the drug screen and finished new hire training on friday. Come monday morning the computer spit out his name for a random drug test and was fired that afternoon. He partied all weekend because he got the job. Pee test are not the best indicator of drug use if they want to know for sure they take hair samples, it gives a complet history like rings in a tree.

They are also not indicators of individuals with drug problems.  If one is not under the influence of a mind-altering substance, at work while performing their function  and their weekend recreation does not impact any facet of their daily duties as an employee to include, but not limited to attendance and safety it should not matter.
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2012, 09:49:50 AM »
Quote from: VonMessa on February 09, 2012, 09:40:54 AM
They are also not indicators of individuals with drug problems.  If one is not under the influence of a mind-altering substance, at work while performing their function  and their weekend recreation does not impact any facet of their daily duties as an employee to include, but not limited to attendance and safety it should not matter.

However there are those that have to feed their drug use..... many by stealing.
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2012, 10:31:54 AM »
Quote from: Shuffler on February 09, 2012, 09:49:50 AM
However there are those that have to feed their drug use..... many by stealing.

There are many that steal to obtain alcohol and tobacco, clothing all of which are legal substances and can be equally dangerous and associated with health problems.  There have been incidences around here of folks getting shot for the shoes on their feet...

Keeping in line with the OP, welfare checks are not the only thing that recipients of welfare use to purchase drugs, tobacco and other "non-essential" items, such as sneakers that retail for $150 or more.  These is also a brisk food stamp/WIC check trade for such items.

I do not think that it is too much to ask for the recipients of welfare to be held accountable for what their benefits are used to acquire.
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2012, 10:36:58 AM »
Well the new bill where welfare folks can't use their money for strip clubs is making a lot of folks unhappy. lol
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2012, 11:51:02 AM »
Quote from: Shuffler on February 09, 2012, 10:36:58 AM
Well the new bill where welfare folks can't use their money for strip clubs is making a lot of folks unhappy. lol

It is very discomforting that something like this has to be enforced by writ of law...
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Re: Drug test
« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2012, 11:51:44 AM »
Having been worked on by EMT's, and likewise being an EMT, I Can understand a urine test for any health care provider (irregardless of prestige or years of service in their field of practice). hell, just having a small issue nagging you can affect your performance in the field, I couldn't imagine performing while under the influence of another substance....
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