Drug test

[VonMessa]

Having been worked on by EMT's, and likewise being an EMT, I Can understand a urine test for any health care provider (irregardless of prestige or years of service in their field of practice). hell, just having a small issue nagging you can affect your performance in the field, I couldn't imagine performing while under the influence of another substance....

Problem is that most of these tests denote if you have  you used drugs, not if you are currently under the influence at the time of the test.

Do I want my EMT to be blitzed on the job?  Of course not.

Is it my business if he ties one after his shift as long as he gets a good night's sleep and is fresh and alert while on duty the next day?  Not at all.

[BreakingBad]

so stop pretending you are anything more than the dog poop SkyRock would scrape off his shoe with a stick!!!

So where is SkyRock these days?

[VonMessa]

So where is SkyRock these days?

Coming soon to a theater near you 

[oakranger]

So where is SkyRock these days?

Coming soon to a theater near you 

NO! NO! NO! Last time he was brought up into discucssion, there was a huge fight.

[Delirium]

I am firmly in favor of drug testing for the workforce and those collecting public money, but I'd prefer if they use hair folicle drug testing instead.

Also, I'm not in favor of the current unemployment benefits. I feel strongly you should only be able to collect based on a ratio of the years worked (and this doesn't include those on disability). For example, for every 7-10 years (up for debate) worked, you accrue 1 year of unemployment.

So, if you're a 58 year old machine shop employee that worked every day of his life, you can collect between 5-7 years. This way, you can go back to school to retrain for a new job or retire early.

[VonMessa]

I am firmly in favor of drug testing for the workforce and those collecting public money, but I'd prefer if they use hair folicle drug testing instead.

Also, I'm not in favor of the current unemployment benefits. I feel strongly you should only be able to collect based on a ratio of the years worked (and this doesn't include those on disability). For example, for every 7-10 years (up for debate) worked, you accrue 1 year of unemployment.

So, if you're a 58 year old machine shop employee that worked every day of his life, you can collect between 5-7 years. This way, you can go back to school to retrain for a new job or retire early.

Not a bad idea.

There is talk here, in PA, about putting in place a clause that requires you to provide proof that you are seeking gainful employment while collecting U/C benefits.  From what I recall, what they have on the table right now is that you must fill/send out 2-3 applications for employment/resumes per week to be eligible for continued benefits.  There is quite the uproar about it.  I see no problem with it, even if there are not jobs available in your field, you should keep looking as the chances of one falling onto the same profession, as a new hire, at your previous wages are very slim unless it is a planned career move.  It would be just a measure to curtail abuse of the system as it is implemented right now.  U/C benefits are a measure to give someone a leg up if the bottom drops out and has never been intended to be a sole source of income but rather a stepping-stone to one's next steady job.

[MaSonZ]

Problem is that most of these tests denote if you have  you used drugs, not if you are currently under the influence at the time of the test.

Do I want my EMT to be blitzed on the job?  Of course not.

Is it my business if he ties one after his shift as long as he gets a good night's sleep and is fresh and alert while on duty the next day?  Not at all.

this is true, and I agree about what he does in his free time. I have seen some people that get dumber by the day when they use marijuana or alcohol....
a good body spray and visene can cover up most of the signs of marijuana use in the here and the now. just my .02 though.

[lyric1]

So what new agency will do this testing? How much will this new agency cost? Are you all willing to pay more taxes for an agency that will most likely cost more to run than catch perps?

[VonMessa]

this is true, and I agree about what he does in his free time. I have seen some people that get dumber by the day when they use marijuana or alcohol....
a good body spray and visene can cover up most of the signs of marijuana use in the here and the now. just my .02 though.

Agreed with the here and now but, at some point, this will bite them in the arse and usually in a dangerous fashion.

The truth is, some folks do not exercise good judgement and unfortunately, that is something that the government can't fix.

[Raptor]

The national average drug use rate: 7-9% of the population
The poverty drug use rate: 3-4% of population

Fact of the matter, going by Florida law, requiring people on welfare to pay $30 for a drug screen is tough for families where $30 is a lot, even if it will be reimbursed later. Not to mention that the state of Florida is losing a lot of money on all of this.

If you are going to require those on welfare to submit to drug screenings because they receive public money, I think anyone that receives money from the public should submit for drug screening. Including those that pass the laws that force this kind of "Class Warfare" on others.

[ACE]

Just drink some bleach to pass..

[bagrat]

Just drink some bleach to pass..

drink it, I heard you just poor it directly in ur pee hole

[mensa180]

I am firmly in favor of drug testing for the workforce and those collecting public money, but I'd prefer if they use hair folicle drug testing instead.

Also, I'm not in favor of the current unemployment benefits. I feel strongly you should only be able to collect based on a ratio of the years worked (and this doesn't include those on disability). For example, for every 7-10 years (up for debate) worked, you accrue 1 year of unemployment.

So, if you're a 58 year old machine shop employee that worked every day of his life, you can collect between 5-7 years. This way, you can go back to school to retrain for a new job or retire early.

What if you're 28, 2 years out of grad school, and $xxxK in debt?  Also I thought unemployment payments were already based on how long you worked in the past and how much you earned.

[rpm]

Also I thought unemployment payments were already based on how long you worked in the past and how much you earned.

That's the way it is in Texas. The amount you get is on a sliding scale commensurate with your wages and length of employment. If you don't collect unemployment the money is returned to the employer after a waiting period. 3 years I think...

[Melvin]

drink it, I heard you just poor it directly in ur pee hole

Bunghole actually...

You must pour the bleach directly into your bunghole so that it cleanses your whole system before it evacuates your peehole.


And what's all this talk of unemployment?

Re-train, re-organize, re-apply.

We're on the upswing men.