Another ranking on the Aces High Bulletin Board please.

[ImADot]

Using text message shorthand, no punctuation or carriage returns is an entirely different matter.

This is, in my opinion, the crux of the reason people are so eager and quick to jump on the grammar bandwagon.

If you're typing from a computer with a keyboard, there is no excuse to not try to form proper sentences and paragraphs. If you're typing from a mobile device, you should still at least make an effort to use proper words and structure. Spelling errors don't count.

[grizz441]

Idk, to me spelling is just sets of rules and memorization that typically gets engrained into long term memory through continuous repetition from a young age all the way through high school.  There might be 20-30 spelling rules, i.g. I before E except after C, and a plethora of special cases.  You just have to learn them all and essentially memorize them through repetition.  I can see how this could be difficult if one was home schooled or did not practice adequately through grade and high school.

[hitech]

To me solving geometry problems is just remembering 4 rules. These 4 rules just need to be committed to memory and then you can use them to write a 3d graphic pipe line or solve all the force calculations needed to wright flight simulators. You just have to learn and memorize them. I could see how this could be difficult for people who were lazy and didn't learn them adequately by not listening in class when they were taught.

HiTech

[grizz441]

To me solving geometry problems is just remembering 4 rules. These 4 rules just need to be committed to memory and then you can use them to write a 3d graphic pipe line or solve all the force calculations needed to wright flight simulators. You just have to learn and memorize them. I could see how this could be difficult for people who were lazy and didn't learn them adequately by not listening in class when they were taught.

HiTech

I did not mean to infer laziness as the reason one did not learn to become an experten speller through their teenage years.  Just that, if one did not learn the sets of rules through practice and repetition through school, then they would naturally struggle with it.  Not to pick on you hitech, because my grammar is not perfect, and my vocabulary especially, is inadequate.  But if I had the motivation to learn new vocabulary words, I could study on a nightly basis and learn new words, their meanings, and how to spell them correctly yes?  I do not see how this is any different than spelling.  You can easily learn to spell commonly misspelled words if you wanted to, as you are the resident genius here.

[hitech]

 I do not see how this is any different than spelling.  You can easily learn to spell commonly misspelled words if you wanted to, as you are the resident genius here.

This is the point. I can NOT, NEVER, EVER, NO MATTER HOW LONG OR HOW HARD I STUDY. I can never learn to spell the most common 5 letter words. It is literately a hit or miss depending on what day.

And THIS is what gets under my skin. It is because I DID study far longer and harder then anyone else I knew when it came to spelling, including summer school. And no matter what I did, the words would not stay. Many days there are 5 letter words I can not spell correctly.

It is not because it is difficult that gets under my skin. It is because some people believe since they can learn it so can everyone else. And if I would take the same view point, things that are trivial and simple for me (like coding, geometry ....), I would believe they are trivial and simple for other people.

HiTech

[grizz441]

This is the point. I can NOT, NEVER, EVER, NO MATTER HOW LONG OR HOW HARD I STUDY. I can never learn to spell the most common 5 letter words. It is literately a hit or miss depending on what day.

And THIS is what gets under my skin. It is because I DID study far longer and harder then anyone else I knew when it came to spelling, including summer school. And no matter what I did, the words would not stay. Many days there are 5 letter words I can not spell correctly.

It is not because it is difficult that gets under my skin. It is because some people believe since they can learn it so can everyone else. And if I would take the same view point, things that are trivial and simple for me (like coding, geometry ....), I would believe they are trivial and simple for other people.

HiTech

So you're telling me if I told you that you would earn a million bucks if you could spell a list of ten trouble words with 2 weeks practice, you would not be able to do it?  Or are you saying that you might be able to do it but would immediately forget how to spell them after the test?  That is odd because clearly it is not a short term/long term memory issue, since you have stored your vast knowledge of skills to long term memory.  How is the memorization of syntax related functions and parameters not the exact same thing as the memorization of syntax related letters and their arrangement?

[fuzeman]

I wish I could go back in time three days and decapitate myself.

Never meant or intended this to go the way it did.

How about brethalizer tests before you're allowed to post?
I've wasted way to many seconds of other's precious time.

[Karnak]

Grizz,

There are things that sometimes cause that.  My dad, for example, has pretty bad dyslexia which makes reading hard for him.  He still reads, but compared to me it is a slow chore to get through a book.  No amount of encouragement will make my dad's dyslexia go away.

[hitech]

So you're telling me if I told you that you would earn a million bucks if you could spell a list of ten trouble words with 2 weeks practice, you would not be able to do it?  Or are you saying that you might be able to do it but would immediately forget how to spell them after the test?  That is odd because clearly it is not a short term/long term memory issue, since you have stored your vast knowledge of skills to long term memory.  How is the memorization of syntax related functions and parameters not the exact same thing as the memorization of syntax related letters and their arrangement?

There is a good chance I could not spell all ten on the test. And after a few weeks it is almost a positive I could not spell them correctly.

grizz many times I can still not remember that it is their or thier. And with out a spell checker or dictionary , there would be no way I would know for certain. When I wrote earlier that I could not spell explain, I really did try 5 times different version for the spell checker to come up with a spelling. I really did give up.

All I can tell you is it is a one way thing, I can read a word, and 1 second later not be able to spell it unless I just concentrated on how it was spelled.

And it isn't like I do not read much. Last year was close to a book every week.

HiTech

[GNucks]

So the guy can't spell, he still seems to have a good understanding of the language. So what if he juggles his I's and E's before he puts them down? I take pride in my ability to spell and type but thinking about even the simplest equations that contain numbers that aren't divisible by five literally makes my head hurt. Thank God for spell-check and calculators, eh?

[SunBat]

Pssst.  Who's gonna tell him is avatar is wrong?

[gpwurzel]

meh, who cares if HiTech can't spell. He's provided us with much fun by making this game/simulator whatever you want to call it. Wish I could do the stuff he can in his head, but alas, I'm not capable - and mostly I'm not thick......sometimes.

<S> HiTech and Company, sod the grammar nazi's.

Wurz

[Babalonian]

^ This guy. And I would like to see the spell-check used more often... davidwales comes to mind... and olds442...



+1 from me

-1

I wouldn't, then posters would develop a dependency on teh spellchecker.  This dependency would only lead to degradation of grammar/spelling in every other venue that didn't feature/offer a spell checker.  It's a great tool to have valuable for use when you opt to do so, and then you also maybe get some helpful instruction/critiquing form the spellchecker that you take on with you.


Edit: And then again you get other benefits to no spellchecker.  Like see above, my never-ending habit of striking the "E" key before the "H" 90% of the time I wrtie the word "the".  It's not a BFD to me, and I notice regular-poster's regular typos, so I start getting compfortable with them because it's almost a subliminal form of poster authentification.  Chances are, if I allegedly post some hell-raising ban-worthy thread on a forum one day, and it doesn't have that "teh" typo at least once, I am almost surely not the poster of it.

[Babalonian]

Utter nonsense. Was not a complete sentence and deserves a ding.

The rest was correct.

Nowhere did I call myself "extremely intelligent". I was actually referring to people like Hitech.

Your comprehension is as atrocious as your spelling.

Does your speltcheck not work?

Ignorant spaz, I hope HT sent you on a vacation, if he didn't he has more self control than at least myself. 

My brother, like HT, is dyslexic and I've long understood and respected HiTech from this angle and don't hesitate highlighting his successes alongside my own brothers whenever mentioning the subject of overcoming the damned disability and being successful in the face of dealing with it on a professional level (or explaining its existence for the first time to complete sods and rejects like you).

[Bruv119]

Ignorant spaz, I hope HT sent you on a vacation, if he didn't he has more self control than at least myself. 

My brother is dyslexic, I've long understood and respected HiTech and don't hesitate highlighting his successes alongside my brothers whenever mentioning the subject of overcoming the damned disability (or explaining it to complete sods like you).

+1   I wouldn't even call it a disability, just something people are born with.  I have to check the odd couple of words but it has never stopped me doing anything.