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Offline Babalonian

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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2012, 06:31:12 PM »
Wow, thanks for all the information.  :salute I also didn't know that about Rolex, I've only got an old Casio and the battery ran out 18 years ago  :lol

If the performance figures are similar at the lower altitudes how come the K-4 is so much more popular in the MA?


As has been said, it's high-speed acceleration is astonishing (great for those runstangs), and it is slightly more stable I think in a lightly-laden knife fight (or rather, maybe it's just easier to not over-laden like a G-14)... then again K < G < F < E too, why choose the second from the top-line?
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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2012, 06:43:53 PM »
I find the K4 to personally be a bit easier to handle then the G14.  I'm no K4 expert, like some here, but I tend to do better then average in it.  I think it in part has to do with the G14's WEP.  The WEP on a G14 is a huge boost over it's military power, while it's less extreme on the K4.  Either plane you have to be extremely carefull with WEP at low speeds and high angles.  All 109's fly similiar, but they each have their own personalities and fans.   

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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2012, 06:47:55 PM »
I find the K4 to personally be a bit easier to handle then the G14.  I'm no K4 expert, like some here, but I tend to do better then average in it.  I think it in part has to do with the G14's WEP.  The WEP on a G14 is a huge boost over it's military power, while it's less extreme on the K4.  Either plane you have to be extremely carefull with WEP at low speeds and high angles.  All 109's fly similiar, but they each have their own personalities and fans.   

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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2012, 01:23:10 AM »
why choose the second from the top-line?

Well the handling mainly. I did one month in the G-14 in the MA and I can feel a big difference between the G-14 and the K-4.

Ah it's quite a bit faster, I didn't realise. The extra speed and good altitude performance probably explains the popularity.

The missing gauge is immediately to the right of number 35 (Airspeed Indicator) and it's not labelled on Ardy's diagram either.

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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2012, 05:14:41 AM »

The K4 has a DB605D while the G-14 has a DB605AS.


In AH G-14 has DB605AM, not AS. This is easily seen by looking at the shape of the cowl.
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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2012, 08:21:20 AM »
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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2012, 08:41:56 AM »
In AH G-14 has DB605AM, not AS. This is easily seen by looking at the shape of the cowl.

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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2012, 02:50:01 PM »
Only the G-14/AS used the that engine.

2/3rds of G-14 new production used the DB605A engine (2689 vs 1377)

In AH G-14 has DB605AM, not AS. This is easily seen by looking at the shape of the cowl.

So the G14 AH is DB605AM or DB605A (is there a difference)?
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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2012, 03:59:36 PM »
So the G14 AH is DB605AM or DB605A (is there a difference)?


The DB605AM used  MW50. The DB605A did not.

The S engine used the larger supercharger from the DB603 engine.

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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2012, 05:27:00 PM »


Do you see why I asked about the apparently absent machine gun bulges?  :headscratch:
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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2012, 02:38:06 AM »
The DB605AM used  MW50. The DB605A did not.

The S engine used the larger supercharger from the DB603 engine.

oh cool, thanks.
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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2012, 02:56:14 AM »
Ironically the missing gauge is a clock it seems:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq3eMzrTmxo

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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2012, 07:54:41 AM »
G14 is to slow. When I fly it I always have the feeling that, that runner got away because I wasn't in a k4, or I roped
Myself up because I didn't have the climb rate of k4.
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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2012, 08:00:54 AM »
The truth is you like flat chested women JOACH1M (see gif above)!  :banana: :old:

I also got the feeling winging with you yesterday that the K-4 had a lot more steam in the vert, I guess it's a combination of better streamlining and more power.
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Re: Bf109K-4
« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2012, 08:12:34 AM »
The truth is you like flat chested women JOACH1M (see gif above)!  :banana: :old:

I also got the feeling winging with you yesterday that the K-4 had a lot more steam in the vert, I guess it's a combination of better streamlining and more power.
I'm kind of a butt guy myself :old: :banana:

The k4 just feels alot more powerful, but there is a difference in handling from what I can tell when flying it. The handling difference isnt much to make me want to fly the g14 over the k4.
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