Libyans destroying wargraves of British/commonwealth soldiers

[Rich52]

There's no need for force, just nonchalantly send an 18-wheeler and a couple of SUV's full of security guards and shovels.  Dig the bodies up, put them in the trailer, and drive them to the nearest airbase that will have a plane with sufficient cargo capacity.  There, no bloodshed, no violence, just solving the problem like civilized people.

"Civilized people"? Well I guess that makes me "un" civilized cause when I see a video of armed Jihadists defacing burial sights of westerners I'd pretty much expect a gunfight when you pull up in the 18 wheeler.

[Penguin]

That's what the security guards are for.  The "force" in question was hostile military force, as opposed to a quiet entry.

-Penguin

[olds442]

bunch of scum bags

[uptown]

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...if this is how the lybians want to conduct them selves then we will conduct ourselves differently...keep the moral high ground I say with an open mind
there are avacados everywhere in the world, dont forget that
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I'm proud that you guys across the pond are our allies in arms because of statements like that. The British have always had honor and respected her enemies. But I'm to the point that when I see these kind of things that were in the OP video, I just scream inside. It's time to take the gloves off and get midevil on these clowns if ya ask me. That's the only thing they understand. I feel that if we don't we'll be fighting this war for another 1000 years. The USMC has a saying: kill em' all and then let god sort them out. That's been my feelings towards them since Oct. of 82 when they blew up the Marine barracks in Lebanon.

Total all out in your face war is what is needed. Not these "beating around the bush, afraid to hurt anybody's feelings" wars we've been fighting since Vietnam.  Just my angry 2 cents 

[Penguin]

That saying actually came from the genocide committed by the French Crown against the Hugeonots.  Total all-out in your face war against what?  The Arab people, who have been largely powerless as their countries have been torn apart by ethnic violence, revolutions, and despotic dictators?  The only way to wage war against a people is to kill them, so genocide, cold, calculated murder against tens of millions of people is what you think will solve the problem.  Think about what that means.  That's not killing a person, or a town, or a country or even a region.  That's killing an entire race.  You know the last guy who tried to do that?  That's right.  Now his countenance resides almost daily on the History channel, and he will forever be remembered as the most evil man to walk the earth.  That man.  Ethics and posterity aside, to think that the world will stand idly by as the US exacts its revolting revenge on an entire race for the actions of a few is madness.  By your logic, it would be total war against them as well.  Not just any war, though, nuclear war.  It would be the end of the world, the end of mankind.  Then there would be nothing, nothing but cold, gray ash and the shadows of the innocent, etched by atomic fire into the concrete of the cities.

-Penguin

[VonMessa]

That saying actually came from the genocide committed by the French Crown against the Hugeonots.  Total all-out in your face war against what?  The Arab people, who have been largely powerless as their countries have been torn apart by ethnic violence, revolutions, and despotic dictators?  The only way to wage war against a people is to kill them, so genocide, cold, calculated murder against tens of millions of people is what you think will solve the problem.  Think about what that means.  That's not killing a person, or a town, or a country or even a region.  That's killing an entire race.  You know the last guy who tried to do that?  That's right.  Now his countenance resides almost daily on the History channel, and he will forever be remembered as the most evil man to walk the earth.  That man.  Ethics and posterity aside, to think that the world will stand idly by as the US exacts its revolting revenge on an entire race for the actions of a few is madness.  By your logic, it would be total war against them as well.  Not just any war, though, nuclear war.  It would be the end of the world, the end of mankind.  Then there would be nothing, nothing but cold, gray ash and the shadows of the innocent, etched by atomic fire into the concrete of the cities.

-Penguin

He said nothing about genocide.

Libyans are not Arabs,

but...

Your candy-arse rhetoric made me 

It was a good, solid belly laugh, too and not just a tiny chuckle.

[Melvin]

  It would be the end of the world, the end of mankind.  Then there would be nothing, nothing but cold, gray ash and the shadows of the innocent, etched by atomic fire into the concrete of the cities.

  Wow, some melodramatic prose right there.


Quick Penguin, you might wish to grab your binky and hide under your bed. That man is coming for you.

[Penguin]

He said nothing about genocide.

Libyans are not Arabs,

but...

Your candy-arse rhetoric made me 

It was a good, solid belly laugh, too and not just a tiny chuckle.

He did not mention the Libyans in his argument.  I assumed that he referred to Arabs as well, since we are fighting a war in the Middle East, too.  Nuclear war on the world?  Pretty much.  There are a lot of warheads lying around, and itchy trigger fingers would quickly find relief on those little brass keys.

  Wow, some melodramatic prose right there.


Quick Penguin, you might wish to grab your binky and hide under your bed. That man is coming for you.

Color me wet behind the ears but I don't know what a binky is.

-Penguin

[VonMessa]

He did not mention the Libyans in his argument.  I assumed that he referred to Arabs as well, since we are fighting a war in the Middle East, too.  Nuclear war on the world?  Pretty much.  There are a lot of warheads lying around, and itchy trigger fingers would quickly find relief on those little brass keys.

Color me wet behind the ears but I don't know what a binky is.

-Penguin

You must have missed the title and subject matter of the thread for all of your genius insight.

The object you  put in your mouth and sucked on as an infant, not to be confused with the one you put in your mouth, now

[uptown]

Penquin, I have no problems with the Arab people or the Islamic faith. But the extremists are a whole different ball of wax. That is who I direct my anger towards. I'd have no problem hunting them down one by one until they're wiped off the face of the earth. Every single last one. You know why I feel that way? Because that is what they feel about me AND you....and our parents, grandparents, children etc. etc.

Do you really want these people and their twisted ideas to multiply? I don't. It'd be akin to letting the KKK run amouk here in the states imo. Luckily we as a people had the good sense to put the klan in check before their thinking got too embedded in our society. If we keep giving the extremists a pass on their actions they'll spread like roaches across the globe. God help us all if that happens.

[Bruv119]

Penquin, I have no problems with the Arab people or the Islamic faith. But the extremists are a whole different ball of wax. That is who I direct my anger towards. I'd have no problem hunting them down one by one until they're wiped off the face of the earth. Every single last one. You know why I feel that way? Because that is what they feel about me AND you....and our parents, grandparents, children etc. etc.

Do you really want these people and their twisted ideas to multiply? I don't. It'd be akin to letting the KKK run amouk here in the states imo. Luckily we as a people had the good sense to put the klan in check before their thinking got too embedded in our society. If we keep giving the extremists a pass on their actions they'll spread like roaches across the globe. God help us all if that happens.

Christian Extremism has been just as barbaric throughout history.  Takes two to tango.   I would say 99.9 % of the moslem world are good people just Like you and I and you want to kill innocent women and children?  

Religion isn't always the root cause of trouble some people are idiots and people are everywhere.    The NTC have come on record saying that they are just as disgusted with that group of indivaduals and IF caught will punish them under Islamic law so I guess one of them will be losing a hand or foot.    

[bagrat]

Your humor is too sophisticated and I must unfortunately ask for explanation.

-Penguin

If that were here or another similar country they would have probably been tazed, arrested and the armed would be shot before getting to do anything to the 2nd tombstone.

[bagrat]

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ddoouubbllee  ppoosstt

[Rich52]

Christian Extremism has been just as barbaric throughout history.  Takes two to tango.   I would say 99.9 % of the moslem world are good people just Like you and I and you want to kill innocent women and children?   

Not even close. But for the record at least Christianity evolved into a humane religion since the 1500's. Were still waiting on Islam.

Religion isn't always the root cause of trouble some people are idiots and people are everywhere.    The NTC have come on record saying that they are just as disgusted with that group of indivaduals and IF caught will punish them under Islamic law so I guess one of them will be losing a hand or foot.

You cant possibly think whatever bunch is running that zoo now is going to try and catch their "brothers"? Or that they can?
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/16/rights-group-says-libyas-militias-are-out-of-control/?ref=libya

As my colleague Anthony Shadid reported from Tripoli last week, the powerlessness of the government is such that the national army is treated like just another armed group. As a result, Libya’s leaders have been unable to rein in the large number of lawless militias with regional or tribal allegiances who fight one another with disturbing frequency. Human Rights Watch has estimated that there are 250 separate militias in the coastal city of Misurata alone.

[uptown]

In all fairness Rich we shouldn't base our perception of a particular faith based on the actions of a few. I'd venture to say that 95% of the followers of Islam are peace loving folks that just want to live their lives the best they know how, without harming anyone.