Having been in the vguys squad, I can tell you that I never felt this way. Just a group of fun guys flying together thinking strategically how to win the war. Some are very experienced and some are new. We each had our tasks like take down town ack, VH, etc. the new guys at vey proud when they accomplish their assigned goal. The experienced guys help the new guys along. The constant put downs by the rest of you are largely ignored but over time do take some toll. I left because they were mostly night shift and too focused on base takes and not individual fighter skills, although that may have changed by now. vDogfite, at the time, wa a great CO. Lots of great guys in this squad. I have seen them take many bases with just five or six involved. =v=
Nothing wrong with team work and having goals. The downfall of using the 30v1 odds is obvious: they do not know what it means to work for a win. This type of "hand out the trophy to all players" does not lend for the desire to get better, it lends for a continued desire to "win" at any cost. Stop and think about it, if a player (especially a new player) is subject to easy wins and easy survival rates because of over whelming odds, then what happens if and when they get challenged?
Having been in the vguys squad, I can tell you that I never felt this way. Just a group of fun guys flying together thinking strategically how to win the war. Some are very experienced and some are new. We each had our tasks like take down town ack, VH, etc. The new guys are very proud when they accomplish their assigned goal. The experienced guys help the new guys along. The constant put downs by the rest of you are largely ignored but over time do take some toll. I left because they were mostly night shift and too focused on base takes and not individual fighter skills, although that may have changed by now. vDogfite, at the time, was a great CO. Lots of great guys in this squad. I have seen them take many bases with just five or six involved. =v=
Speaking for myself Corky, I get it...I was simply making a point that its a bit of a prison gang/herd mentality for a lot of newbs. You get in the gang to survive and hide until you understand how the prison works. Pretty simply training program really but it has it's benefits....and significant drawbacks.
We each had our tasks like take down town ack, VH, etc. The new guys are very proud when they accomplish their assigned goal.
Its quite apparent that those who fly under the 'v' name and others who play similarly are the main "life" of Aces High.They present an unsurmountable challenge as a group to everyone, yet perform the basic duties of newbies by keeping those with "skill" well fed. They play seemingly detached from the technicalities of personal prowess but appear to be attached to the players around them.What more could anyone ask for?Maybe better tactics (by their critics)?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1m6IKiO26c#t=01m08
This style creates a home for new folks too. Remember that learning this game is tough no matter how much time you have on your hands. Horde squads buy people time to learn and subtract the frustrations of the game while allowing them to have fun by contributing to the greater good of the mission. They feel accomplished and rightly so. Mission: Capture a base...takeoff, mission accomplished. That feels pretty good in a game and in RL doesn't it?
I was responding to your prison gang comment. Never felt that way when I was with them. Just the opposite, more like a team/club with common interests and fun to learn and succeed.
And that plus the sheer number of people in the squad makes it easy for noobs to hide and learn....prison gang style. You made my point you just left out the squad size to try to make yours; # of people is what enables the prison yard gang protection.
