spitfire mk xiv (14)

[Amsoil21]

was it really as bad as it was in this game, yes its fast and rightly so but bloody hell what an animal it is.

what you guys think

[Tupac]

I think they need to unperk it.

[Guppy35]

It was an animal.  More power then the fuselage could really handle, even with the bigger tail surfaces.  They really didnt solve that until the spit 22/24 and Spiteful and even then the only real solution was the counter rotating props.

Flying a 14 was not like flying a 5 or 9 as many veteran Merlin Spit drivers found out when introduced to the Griffon 14

[Karnak]

Why does the larger Spitfire Mk XIV airframe with larger surface areas handle ~2000hp worse than the Bf109K-4?

[nrshida]

[MachFly]

Based on what I read it was the same as in AH. But it's not bad in AH, just got to know how to fly it.

[PR3D4TOR]

Why does the larger Spitfire Mk XIV airframe with larger surface areas handle ~2000hp worse than the Bf109K-4?

Does it?

[Amsoil21]

well what i cant work out is that yes the engine chucks out major horses but even when throttled off or low it still moves around like its being pulled with strings away from where you want to go. i mean how can it be so so so much different from the other spits. especially when slow. is it much much heavier?

[Karnak]

Does it?

To me, yes, the Bf109K-4 is clearly more docile.

[RTHolmes]

... how can it be so so so much different from the other spits. especially when slow. is it much much heavier?

the engine is alot heavier, and thats a problem because its stuck right out at the front, so all the extra mass is about as far away from the centre of gravity as it can get.

this increases the pendulum effect (it has a higher polar moment of inertia), same reason that porsche 911s are notorious for wagging their tail. this is why the nose is so much bouncier than the merlin spits.

[Amsoil21]

rt holmes  now that makes sence it sure has got a long nose. still amazing how different it is i guess ill have to keep flying it for a while and find out how to cope. 

[FLS]

If you are used to flying Spits the 14 is also tough just because it rotates the opposite direction so you tend to roll and turn the "wrong" way.

[kilo2]

Been trying out the 14 a bit and to be honest it feels untouchable.

It does not have any quarks the 152 doesn't and really "feels" similar.

[icepac]

The XIV models the compromises the manufacturers had to address in order to achieve great speed and altitude.

It's the other planes in game that sometimes ignore the downside of the compromises.

[Babalonian]

the engine is alot heavier, and thats a problem because its stuck right out at the front, so all the extra mass is about as far away from the centre of gravity as it can get.

this increases the pendulum effect (it has a higher polar moment of inertia), same reason that porsche 911s are notorious for wagging their tail. this is why the nose is so much bouncier than the merlin spits.

Not just the engine alone, correct?

It was an animal.  More power then the fuselage could really handle, even with the bigger tail surfaces.  They really didnt solve that until the spit 22/24 and Spiteful and even then the only real solution was the counter rotating props.

Flying a 14 was not like flying a 5 or 9 as many veteran Merlin Spit drivers found out when introduced to the Griffon 14

Didn't they have to reinforce the airframe around the cowl/nose signifigantly?... like riveted steel beams and plates signifigant?  I've always assumed it's also been inherantly more nose-heavy than other models (even with the upsized tail).