the KI will win pretty much every time...I know I have beat the best there is in a jug,on more then one occasion(even though I am one of the worst shots in game and a mediocre pilot) ,..... the only thing a JUG can do against the KI is run, get as much separation as possible, and come back and engage when the KI is fighting his friends....
even if the JUG has massive speed advantage, the KI if drivin properly will avoid the attacking BnZ passes eventually gain enough E to climb with the JUG and take him out....
two planes that are awesome in different aspects....say the 51 against the Hurri2C...one is a BnZ expert one is a Turn and burn expert....if flown by experts in both...will end in a stale mate....the KI has much more then just turning ability, the only thing it lacks is hi speed diving.....the P47 falls short of the KI for its only advantage is the Hi speed dive....while the KI is better at everything else that dictates a fight
I know you P47 fans don't want to hear it or admit it, but the KI is a much better plane for fighting....the Jug is better at attacking stationary targets and escaping.
I'm going to talk about the M and N models
I would say that your a better than average pilot by a long way and no doubt you could kill me in my M jug if you can catch me but I'm not planning on being in a spot where that will happen! If I am stupid enough to get slow near you I deserve to be shot down,,
the jug "M" shines in its speed, in its dive, its roll rate and in its firepower.
The KI has a slight advantage of speed at 10 to 12 k without wep and that is it! with wep the "M" drives away, but the jug must maintain a good "E" state at all times for this to work, the KI accelerates a lot faster than the jug unless you nose it over or if you are going around 250 or faster at the start. the KI has a climb advantage to about 17K then the jug pulls ahead.
http://gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.phpso if I were to see a KI I would prefer to engage him above 17K, or even better, around 25K I might dive down to 13 K on to BnZ but that is what the plane is good at.
I don't understand why people think a pilot should fly the plane "Out of its element" but I do understand that the game doesn't really have a need for 25K fights and they are rare!
If you like to fly jugs and want to land some kills you better learn how to fly it "In its element" until you become proficient enough to tell another pilots skill level,, I am not all that great at turn fighting and have no doubt you could probably kill me above or below 17K but I would at least want the fight to be there or above just to give me a fighting chance!
as for the other jugs,, don't mess with the KI under 25K unless you want to see the tower really soon, it only has its dive and roll to help and lots of cannon, if your lucky enough to get one in front of you for some reason.
I like to fly the Jug even tho it isn't the best plane in the game and I love to dogfight one v one almost anything while in it, but as long as there are more than one enemy, or the enemy has alt advantage, I will use the bird in what ever way will leave me on top,, and that means running or diving, those are the strengths of the plane, my comment about only an idiot would try to turn fight the KI wasn't really an insult so much as a warning, do as you must, and gain that glory if you get the kill but be aware you are already at a huge disadvantage by being in the jug, slow, turning and falling from the sky slowly to your doom, hope you have enough alt, once you realize the mistake you have made to point the nose strait down and go like heck, or just be happy you got the chance to fight and relish the wins you get!!
