gamey stuff and real life

[Klam]

Had some good fights tonight with lots of players.  One of them got me thinking about what we do in game to improve our postion vs what the real pilots would have done.

A guy in a 109g14 fought my 109f4.....we had some good fights but I noticed he was turning his engine of when we scissored and danced.   It's not a common tactic I've come across, although I have seen it before. 

Would a real pilot do this?  Having never flown anything but sim' birds I wouldn't know how hard it was to do this in combat.

We was pretty even on fights and I had fun.  Was just curios

[Rich52]

Had some good fights tonight with lots of players.  One of them got me thinking about what we do in game to improve our postion vs what the real pilots would have done.

A guy in a 109g14 fought my 109f4.....we had some good fights but I noticed he was turning his engine of when we scissored and danced.   It's not a common tactic I've come across, although I have seen it before. 

Would a real pilot do this?  Having never flown anything but sim' birds I wouldn't know how hard it was to do this in combat.

We was pretty even on fights and I had fun.  Was just curios

NO!

[Daddkev]

  Sounds like AirJer. He always fights like that.  

[cattb]

There are a few things that happen in this game I highly doubt would happen in real life airplane combat.

[Karnak]

It also doesn't help in AH.  The effect he thinks he is getting is the same he'd get but throttling back to zero.

[Reaper90]

Gamey flying on his part.

Engine restart should have a few seconds of delay before power is regenerated, just to prevent or reduce that type of mess.

[Ack-Ack]

Had some good fights tonight with lots of players.  One of them got me thinking about what we do in game to improve our postion vs what the real pilots would have done.

A guy in a 109g14 fought my 109f4.....we had some good fights but I noticed he was turning his engine of when we scissored and danced.   It's not a common tactic I've come across, although I have seen it before. 

Would a real pilot do this?  Having never flown anything but sim' birds I wouldn't know how hard it was to do this in combat.

We was pretty even on fights and I had fun.  Was just curios

When you see someone turn on/off their engine in mid-fight, it's because they falsely believe that it will get them slower and make you over shoot in a rolling scissor or to make them turn tighter in a turn.  It's an AH urban legend without any basis in fact.  Count your blessings because you're about to enjoy an easy kill if the other guy starts with the engine cutting.

ack-ack

[Torquila]

The concept works quite well, but usually only against inexperienced pilots who can't instantly tell what it means. As mentioned before he should be cutting throttle as to not give up the goose to his little plan.

What it *definetly* doesn't work against, is those really focused-for-a-kill types who have the right speed at all times to avoid such situations, bunch of nerds; lulz  

[Butcher]

Same type think fish flop actually fool a veteran pilot.

[CAP1]

Had some good fights tonight with lots of players.  One of them got me thinking about what we do in game to improve our postion vs what the real pilots would have done.

A guy in a 109g14 fought my 109f4.....we had some good fights but I noticed he was turning his engine of when we scissored and danced.   It's not a common tactic I've come across, although I have seen it before. 

Would a real pilot do this?  Having never flown anything but sim' birds I wouldn't know how hard it was to do this in combat.

We was pretty even on fights and I had fun.  Was just curios

 nope.

[HawkerMKII]

90% of things done in this game would put you in a body bag in real life

[RufusLeaking]

Maybe a piston pilot can check in on the subject, but air starting a jet engine is an exercise, much more involved than tapping the 'e' key.

[Mordock]

In flight school we would cut throttle to 0, to demonstrate an engine failure and then walk through the restart procedures, its not as simple, since you have to work fuel pump switches ect, and then risk flooding the engine mid air.

[4Prop]

1: no it would take probably closer if not more then a minute to restart the engine
2:only about 10% of the game is "realistic". 5% because airplanes fly. the other 5% being those airplanes existed in WWII
3:there was never a P51 Vs Spit16, 109 vs 190....yada yada yada
4:we dont have engine failures
5:we dont experience control surface lockups
6:we have an ammo counter
7:our guns dont jam
8:if your plane catches fire, it automatically goes boom. unlike some planes in WWII that could catch fire and still make it back, we are done after 5 seconds of being on fire.
9:the lack of objectives (strategic objectives)
10:ramming. In WWII only a few times did only a few pilots make it away (and especially with almost no damage like you see every day)
11:our fuel burns at twice the actual rate
12:we always have a trusty radio

[Raphael]

I've had lots of problems with that, I ALWAYS let the guy go when I see he is deadtick (unless I see it to late) and it cost me a few lives because they would turn it on and shoot at my back

no good deed goes unpunished