11.81@121mph

[CAP1]

"Predictions"?   

 and simulations mind you. 

[Reaper90]

Simulations, predictions... things you do to compare performance with a car that, at that time, didn't exist yet....


And no one (who has all their teeth and had finished the 6th grade) cares about drag racing. Whoopdy. Fricking. Doo.

Road course victory over the Bowtie of FAIL.

Simple as that.

[CAP1]

Simulations, predictions... things you do to compare performance with a car that, at that time, didn't exist yet....


And no one (who has all their teeth and had finished the 6th grade) cares about drag racing. Whoopdy. Fricking. Doo.

Road course victory over the Bowtie of FAIL.

Simple as that.

welllll..technically speaking it did exist. ford's been working on this since 2007 i believe. it's not a response to the zl1..........

[Reaper90]

welllll..technically speaking it did exist. ford's been working on this since 2007 i believe. it's not a response to the zl1..........

I'm working on a spaceship that will take me to Mars and help me to conquer the world, have been since 2007. Wanna see it?

in other words, not available to be tested, in this sense, equals "doesn't exist" as far as the rest of the world is concerned.

[Grayeagle]

11's in a stock car is impressive ..

... alla 'muscle cars' of the '60's-'70's would have had their doors blown off.

Stock.

But .. headers were $25, a decent cam and alla gaskets to put it in, about a hundred bucks.
Tunnel ram and carbs ..a coupla hundred.
Even the big dog blower from BDS back in the day was right around 1k.
Biggest problem was hookin it up
..tires sucked unless you ran wrinkle-walls or Mcreary dirt track tires (G2 compound was like bubble gum

And .. they didn't stop, corner, and most needed constant attention on one thing or another.
Not that there was anything wrong with runnin the valves before Saturday's cruise

They did sound sweet when everything was 'right.'

-GE aka Frank

[CAP1]

11's in a stock car is impressive ..

... alla 'muscle cars' of the '60's-'70's would have had their doors blown off.

Stock.

But .. headers were $25, a decent cam and alla gaskets to put it in, about a hundred bucks.
Tunnel ram and carbs ..a coupla hundred.
Even the big dog blower from BDS back in the day was right around 1k.
Biggest problem was hookin it up
..tires sucked unless you ran wrinkle-walls or Mcreary dirt track tires (G2 compound was like bubble gum

And .. they didn't stop, corner, and most needed constant attention on one thing or another.
Not that there was anything wrong with runnin the valves before Saturday's cruise

They did sound sweet when everything was 'right.'

-GE aka Frank

 yea they did. but just being in the low 13's will beat over 95% of those hot rods.

 here's a fairly interesting article too.....

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/1968-tunnel-port-ford-mustang-vs-chevrolet-camaro-z-28-archived-comparison

[TheDudeDVant]

2 seconds on that course is pretty far. the shelby on the other hand, i feel will grip a lot better than anyone expects it to, and will pummel the zl..........

maybe but folks say a IRS will beat a solid axle rear end on a road course most days.. which is a good point to make when racing a 1/4.. The gt will hook better off the line.. the gt has a pretty strong 60ft..

[CAP1]

maybe but folks say a IRS will beat a solid axle rear end on a road course most days.. which is a good point to make when racing a 1/4.. The gt will hook better off the line.. the gt has a pretty strong 60ft..

 they do indeed say that. but then i would steer you to look at the continental tire challenge, in which these cars compete directly against each other. the camaro in race trim weighs less than the mustang, has the irs, and a bigger engine. the mustang in race trim weighs a bit more, runs a smaller engine, has a live rear solid axle, and isn't as well balanced as the camaro.....yet it is more than a match for the camaro on those road courses.
 last year, the camaros won 2 races, both of which had the top running ford and bmw teams knocked out of the race.......this year, porshce has come back, now that they've got an engine that can compete, and has been wiping the track with both ford and chevy.....but fords are still topping chevys in the series.

[Shuffler]

I don't watch much racing but yesterday during Indy 500 trials and testing...... it was all chevy and honda except for 2 lotus engined cars. Both of the lotus cars were running 90 hp below the chevys and hondas.

Ford evidently does not support that type racing.

[CAP1]

I don't watch much racing but yesterday during Indy 500 trials and testing...... it was all chevy and honda except for 2 lotus engined cars. Both of the lotus cars were running 90 hp below the chevys and hondas.

Ford evidently does not support that type racing.

 i don't know if they still run in indy or f1 or now.....but the cosworths i think are ford designs.

 the racing series i'm talking about is road racing. they're generally factory race cars, that actually still look like the street versions you can buy. and in fords case, for about 105k, you can buy one ready to run in this series.

[Shuffler]

i don't know if they still run in indy or f1 or now.....but the cosworths i think are ford designs.

 the racing series i'm talking about is road racing. they're generally factory race cars, that actually still look like the street versions you can buy. and in fords case, for about 105k, you can buy one ready to run in this series.

If I unsderstand correctly the ones ford run are not built by ford.... right/ wrong/ what? 

[CAP1]

If I unsderstand correctly the ones ford run are not built by ford.... right/ wrong/ what? 

 which series?

 also, there's been talk now that the stock gt500......right down to the tires......has gone 11.53@128mph. probably got outta that 2k density altitude, and lost the 10mph headwind.

[Shuffler]

which series?

 also, there's been talk now that the stock gt500......right down to the tires......has gone 11.53@128mph. probably got outta that 2k density altitude, and lost the 10mph headwind.

Oh is it just some series and not others?

[Bronk]

maybe but folks say a IRS will beat a solid axle rear end on a road course most days.. which is a good point to make when racing a 1/4.. The gt will hook better off the line.. the gt has a pretty strong 60ft..

Depends on course conditions... pool table smooth... not so much. If on the other hand a lot of washboarding then yes IRS holds an advantage. IMO

[CAP1]

If I unsderstand correctly the ones ford run are not built by ford.... right/ wrong/ what? 

 if you're talking about the road racing series i've mentioned, those mustangs roll down the very same assembly line that my gt came down. they get pulled off, shipped out for the rollcage, then returned to the ford plant, where they are completed by hand.
 it is the same for the cobrajet mustangs, which have been recorded as fast as in the 8 second 1/4 mile range, although they're not street legal. they also are factory built.