506FG/457 FS P51D angled wing lines.

[bustr]

The 506FG/457 FS P51D by cactus with the green tail has 5 rayed out angled lines on the top of each wing. What were those lines used for?

[Guppy35]

Sight lines for dive bombing

[Krusty]

Rather rare to see on a P-51, they were quite common on other rides. Ju-87s had them, IL2s, and other planes as well. Not all were on the wings, some were on the nose cowling or the forward glass itself.

[bustr]

How do you use them in this game?

[Babalonian]

How do you use them in this game?

You can either use them for reference to a fixed/current dive angle, or as a reference to be used in achieving a desired dive angle.  IE:  you settup your dive and initiate it, achieve sighting in your target, look out your side to the horizon and using the skewed lines against it to make a acurate obseration of your dive angle, adjust your sight picture/piper placement on target as necessary through your recent observation, drop and go.

[bustr]

Babs,

You just want me to go hey Piggies I'll take the VH down on our next Piggy raid. Then all of you will switch to another channel and place bets on if I auger or miss the FH. Then you'll all tune back just in time to hear me go Douh!!.   After which you will personaly pass me my.....

Yeah it's a setup. Cactus put the word out to wait for one fool like me to ask. So you say again those numbers on the lines equal degrees of angle relative to the horizon. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. counting fingers....hhheheehe.....OK.. .VH next time....hmmmm.... Whats the pool on me up to Babs?

 

[Guppy35]

Rather rare to see on a P-51, they were quite common on other rides. Ju-87s had them, IL2s, and other planes as well. Not all were on the wings, some were on the nose cowling or the forward glass itself.

They didn't show up on the Mustangs til late 44-45 when they were running out of targets and used more for ground attack.  The Iwo 51s in particular had them.  Lots of photos of end of the war in Europe 51s with them as well.

[Ruah]

you match the horizon over your wing to the angle of the line and that will give you a fixed visual reference for a dive angle yah?

[bustr]

Ruah not youuuuuuu toooooo....so you got a long or short on the bet?

[Krusty]

you match the horizon over your wing to the angle of the line and that will give you a fixed visual reference for a dive angle yah?

I'm not actually sure they work so well in the game. More of a real-world thing, and what we see is more a finer detail (eye candy) than functional. Based on variations in screen resolution, field of view, zoom levels, and all that stuff, I would guess the angle could show up rather differently depending on how you look at your monitor.

Just a thought...

[Shuffler]

I'm not actually sure they work so well in the game. More of a real-world thing, and what we see is more a finer detail (eye candy) than functional. Based on variations in screen resolution, field of view, zoom levels, and all that stuff, I would guess the angle could show up rather differently depending on how you look at your monitor.

Just a thought...

Of course your using krusty math...........

[bustr]

Shhhhh...

I was going to take 100% fuel and 2 - 1000lb to make sure I augered when they filmed it for the bet. I was going to wiggle around alot like I was trying to line it up.....

Everyone's been getting so nice in here lately. I'm starting to feel like I should just fly slow and level through furballs in a 262 and type the Mr. Rogers song lyrics on ch200.......

[drgondog]

Although it is remotely possible that some P-47s and Mustangs in 8th or 9th AF may have had the dive bomb reference lines applied I have never seen one in any photo, nor post war for such 9th AF assigned P-51 Groups (354, 355, 357), nor even 354FG when they switched briefly to P-47s late Nov -Feb 45.

[Guppy35]

Although it is remotely possible that some P-47s and Mustangs in 8th or 9th AF may have had the dive bomb reference lines applied I have never seen one in any photo, nor post war for such 9th AF assigned P-51 Groups (354, 355, 357), nor even 354FG when they switched briefly to P-47s late Nov -Feb 45.

I'll post a couple when I get the chance.  Seen on a 4th bird and 364th when I was looking recently

[Guppy35]

Although it is remotely possible that some P-47s and Mustangs in 8th or 9th AF may have had the dive bomb reference lines applied I have never seen one in any photo, nor post war for such 9th AF assigned P-51 Groups (354, 355, 357), nor even 354FG when they switched briefly to P-47s late Nov -Feb 45.

McKennon's Ridge Runner, April 17, 1945 when he crash landed in France.  I remember it because it surprised me when I saw the photo.  No doubt they are there though and before wars end in Europe.  Not suggesting it was common, but not unheard of