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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #225 on: June 07, 2012, 12:49:14 PM »


It certainly looks heavy and densely packed.

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #226 on: June 07, 2012, 01:35:08 PM »
That looks like the reverse manuvering thrusters in a "TIE" fighter. Which game are we playing...... :angel:
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #227 on: June 07, 2012, 01:42:40 PM »
That looks like the reverse manuvering thrusters in a "TIE" fighter. Which game are we playing...... :angel:



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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #228 on: June 07, 2012, 01:44:37 PM »
A Sneak Peak into the new Brewster Buffalo we are getting.

Flight model already in-place  :D

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #229 on: June 07, 2012, 02:01:01 PM »
Wonder if Hitech is modeling the chain fire KABoom that will go off when a hisso comes up betweeen your legs in a furball and sets off all those taters?
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #230 on: June 07, 2012, 03:32:09 PM »
Wonder if Hitech is modeling the chain fire KABoom that will go off when a hisso comes up betweeen your legs in a furball and sets off all those taters?

That's my thought whenever I look at that diagriam, if ever such a thing happened or if somehow one of your own rounds prematurely detonated in the barrel, did any of their pilots live to tell the German's about it?
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #231 on: June 07, 2012, 03:50:30 PM »
I've never heard that it ever happened. They weren't between your legs, they were beneath the floor which I believe had some level of armor protection for the pilot.

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #232 on: June 07, 2012, 04:24:15 PM »
I've never heard that it ever happened. They weren't between your legs, they were beneath the floor which I believe had some level of armor protection for the pilot.

200 stick grenades going off under your feet... :airplane:  :ahand

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #233 on: June 07, 2012, 06:20:28 PM »
Well, since bombs don't explode when struck by incoming bullets, I'm going to say its safe to assume the 410 won't suffer from catastrophic loss of forward fuselage..... I mean the 30mm ammo going up.
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #234 on: June 07, 2012, 07:00:20 PM »
Gyroscopic drift and Coriolis acceleration effects are small in comparison to other factors. The shell starts out with its spin axis aligned with its velocity vector. As the trajectory progresses, gravity accelerates the shell down, introducing a component of velocity toward the ground. By weathervaning the shell will follow the velocity vector, which is a nose-down torque. The spin axis reacts by moving 90 degrees from the applied force, in the direction of rotation. This effect is most prominent after the shell has slowed down to sub-sonic speed and drops off rapidly. So the more velocity a gun impart in the shell, the longer the gyroscopic drift is postponed.

I'm really looking forward to trying out this new Messerschmitt.

with one minor correction...the shell is left behind & the bullet/projectile are acted upon by the forces.  :D
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #235 on: June 07, 2012, 07:08:33 PM »
Well, since bombs don't explode when struck by incoming bullets, I'm going to say its safe to assume the 410 won't suffer from catastrophic loss of forward fuselage..... I mean the 30mm ammo going up.

"Cook-Off" or "Low-Order-Detonation" is no joking matter & will in fact tear an aircraft apart if enough small bomblets Cook-Off.  I have witnessed this in person as it took out several F-111's on the pad at Mtn Home AFB due to a single faulty static ground while loading LOX. All 4 500lb'ers started it...I know, I know, a lot bigger, but.... :rolleyes:
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #236 on: June 07, 2012, 07:12:21 PM »
I meant bombs in Aces High don't go off when hit, which is clearly for game play, since TnT wasn't made shock-proof untill after the war.
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #237 on: June 07, 2012, 07:35:52 PM »
Each round is stuffed with  85 grams of HA41 (hexogen aluminium) or 85 grams of penthrite. The equivalent of the TNT in a stick grenade.

So the Hispano MkII fired both an HEI and SAPI round in a mixed drum or belt. HTC is probably cludgeing them together. So what happens when a semi armor piercing incendiary\ high explosive  round lights up on impact a single Type I, 3 cm Minengeschoss? Hexogen aluminum goes off about 1000c with the explosive output of a stick grenade.

Nawwwww, bet Hitech coaded the damage model so you loose a MK103 or get a pilot wound. Wonder how many time a spit pilot got lucky and cooked off the MK108 ammo in a FW190-A8 wing?  
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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #238 on: June 08, 2012, 12:22:43 PM »
I've never heard that it ever happened. They weren't between your legs, they were beneath the floor which I believe had some level of armor protection for the pilot.

200 stick grenades going off under your feet... :airplane:  :ahand

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Re: It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.
« Reply #239 on: June 08, 2012, 01:06:10 PM »
Each round is stuffed with  85 grams of HA41 (hexogen aluminium) or 85 grams of penthrite. The equivalent of the TNT in a stick grenade.

So the Hispano MkII fired both an HEI and SAPI round in a mixed drum or belt. HTC is probably cludgeing them together. So what happens when a semi armor piercing incendiary\ high explosive  round lights up on impact a single Type I, 3 cm Minengeschoss? Hexogen aluminum goes off about 1000c with the explosive output of a stick grenade.

Nawwwww, bet Hitech coaded the damage model so you loose a MK103 or get a pilot wound. Wonder how many time a spit pilot got lucky and cooked off the MK108 ammo in a FW190-A8 wing?  


  I've seen some guncam footage that shows an fw's wing explode and depart the airframe.Seems like it was the outer 1/3 of the wing so it's very likely this is exactly what happened!

    I think I remember reading some combat reports that stated the ammo cooked off and IIRC these were 50 cal rounds.


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