a different ENY horse to beat

[A8balls]

This is a game and not a war.  ENY was introduced for good reasons, because the community refused to police itself and then because rewards for being on the outnumbered side failed to affect side balance.  ENY needs to be more aggressively applied if anything.

As to the 1 point for a kill in anything of anything, that doesn't at all reflect the challenge of the kill.  You'd reward an La-7 for the easy kill of an I-16 the same as you'd reward the I-16 for the hard kill of an La-7.  That would remove a lot of the incentive to use anything other than the best fighters.

Challenge of the kill??? LOL! Acording to a lot of players, the HO is the most used manuever and is done by people with no skill. Besides that, I don't pay $15 a month to "police" myself OR be "policed". It's a game.... and ENY sucks.

[Lusche]

It's a game....

And games have rules to make them work. ENY is such a rule. And you can be glad AH is already very light on the 'rules' side.
I for one would complain about a much steeper ENY scaling...

[Karnak]

Challenge of the kill??? LOL! Acording to a lot of players, the HO is the most used manuever and is done by people with no skill. Besides that, I don't pay $15 a month to "police" myself OR be "policed". It's a game.... and ENY sucks.

Yes, a lot of people say the HO is the most common, and it may be the most common, but it is not more common than all the others combined by any means.

An above average guy in the La-7 vs an above average guy in the I-16, the fight is harder for the I-16 and killing the La-7 is more of a challenge.  To claim otherwise would be silly.  If you take out any recognition of that you remove much of the incentive to fly the I-16 when the La-7 is better for K/D and K/T/

[A8balls]

Yes, a lot of people say the HO is the most common, and it may be the most common, but it is not more common than all the others combined by any means.

An above average guy in the La-7 vs an above average guy in the I-16, the fight is harder for the I-16 and killing the La-7 is more of a challenge.  To claim otherwise would be silly.  If you take out any recognition of that you remove much of the incentive to fly the I-16 when the La-7 is better for K/D and K/T/

True. But this would be a 1V1 situation and probably best  fought in the DA. In the MA. it's a whole different game. ENY sucks.

[caldera]

True. But this would be a 1V1 situation and probably best  fought in the DA. In the MA. it's a whole different game. ENY sucks.

Instead of trying to get rid of ENY in the Main Arena, why not fly Furball Lake in the DA yourself?  No ENY there and nothing but uber planes for the most part.
In other words, Poof! - wish granted. 

[guncrasher]

I would say why that is, but it is against the rules.


anytime you feel froggie.... you can show me how awesome the 51 is.

like I said maybe 3 guys really fly the 51 that actually fight in it..... EVERYONE else flies it because it is one of the best runners/Pick planes in game.....

I am revering to the "Fighters" like pand (who is anything but a fighter) not the ground war, I pay no attention to that...

easy for you to say that when you are 10k above everybody else.  of course you call that "fighting the horde" but when everybody else does it then they pick.  sweetheart you pick and horde just like everybody else but your ego wont let you admit it.


semp

[A8balls]

Instead of trying to get rid of ENY in the Main Arena, why not fly Furball Lake in the DA yourself?  No ENY there and nothing but uber planes for the most part.
In other words, Poof! - wish granted. 

Sorry Bro. I thought you also were looking for a change in the ENY. You want to see it changed/modified and I do too. You want the numbers rearranged and I would like to see them reduced to 0. Kinda like screwin' a goat... 1 inch or 4 inches, you're still screwin' a goat.

[Karnak]

True. But this would be a 1V1 situation and probably best  fought in the DA. In the MA. it's a whole different game. ENY sucks.

Twelve I-16s vs twelve La-7s would be an even steeper challenge for the I-16s, so no, this is not a 1v1 thing only.

Based on your posts it seems ENY regularly impacts you so I am guessing that you use things like the P-51D, La-7 and Spitfire Mk XVI.  It is easy to sit there using those and say the guy in the P-40C, I-16 or Spitfire Mk I shouldn't get any more reward and claim that the performance differences don't really matter outside of a 1v1 when you are the guy in the low ENY fighter.

[A8balls]

Twelve I-16s vs twelve La-7s would be an even steeper challenge for the I-16s, so no, this is not a 1v1 thing only.

Based on your posts it seems ENY regularly impacts you so I am guessing that you use things like the P-51D, La-7 and Spitfire Mk XVI.  It is easy to sit there using those and say the guy in the P-40C, I-16 or Spitfire Mk I shouldn't get any more reward and claim that the performance differences don't really matter outside of a 1v1 when you are the guy in the low ENY fighter.

Check my stats. I just feel ENY does little for the majority of people. Like the red and blue MAs, it needs to go away. This is just my opinion. You don't have to like it.

[The Fugitive]

easy for you to say that when you are 10k above everybody else.  of course you call that "fighting the horde" but when everybody else does it then they pick.  sweetheart you pick and horde just like everybody else but your ego wont let you admit it.


semp

LOL!! I think about the only time you'll find INK 10k over anyone is if he went AFK and forgot to come back!

Sorry Bro. I thought you also were looking for a change in the ENY. You want to see it changed/modified and I do too. You want the numbers rearranged and I would like to see them reduced to 0. Kinda like screwin' a goat... 1 inch or 4 inches, you're still screwin' a goat.

You don't seem to fly hotrods, why does ENY bother you?

If ENY was removed the team with the bigger horde would still have the hotrods to fly. I don't see a problem with trying to hobble them a bit by forcing them into  more challenging rides. I'd be happier if it was even more pronounced. The people are forced into inferior rides the more they learn the better the game is for everyone.

[A8balls]

LOL!! I think about the only time you'll find INK 10k over anyone is if he went AFK and forgot to come back!

You don't seem to fly hotrods, why does ENY bother you?

If ENY was removed the team with the bigger horde would still have the hotrods to fly. I don't see a problem with trying to hobble them a bit by forcing them into  more challenging rides. I'd be happier if it was even more pronounced. The people are forced into inferior rides the more they learn the better the game is for everyone.

Hi Fugi! Just saying... let everyone ride what they wish. Why force someone to play by another's ideas of what fair is. The current ENY is kinda outta whack so just try no ENY for 3 months. I bet nobody would complain then. Especially like the dual MA setup we had for awhile. 

[ACE]

please

P 51's are for those that want to run away and "stay alive" which it does very well..... ....even the numbers show the game is clearly in over abundance with.

all my time here I have seen maybe 3 guys that actually fight in the 51 semp you aint one of them.

Im not one of those three who are the best but I damn sure will turn the pony.  Just like anyother plane I fly.

[Karnak]

Hi Fugi! Just saying... let everyone ride what they wish. Why force someone to play by another's ideas of what fair is. The current ENY is kinda outta whack so just try no ENY for 3 months. I bet nobody would complain then. Especially like the dual MA setup we had for awhile. 

Because no controls over population imbalance was causing a serious problem to the game. I am not sure if your forum registration date of 2007 represents your subscription date, but take it from somebody who was there that massive population imbalances were a serious and detrimental problem.  HTC could see significant numbers of people logging off as the balance got worse and made the game nearly unplayable for the outnumbered side.

They first tried to get the community to fix itself by using the carrot of greater perk rewards for kills obtained while on the outnumbered side, but that had essentially no effect.  Only then did they introduce the punitive ENY restrictions to take away popular aircraft from the side that is too large in population and that did help.

As to the better kill rewards for making a kill in an I-16 compared with an La-7, what does that matter?  The La-7 guy can still fly whatever he wants and the I-16 guy gets a bonus for flying a harder airplane.

[The Fugitive]

Hi Fugi! Just saying... let everyone ride what they wish. Why force someone to play by another's ideas of what fair is. The current ENY is kinda outta whack so just try no ENY for 3 months. I bet nobody would complain then. Especially like the dual MA setup we had for awhile. 

I understand why these things are needed. I've see so much "crap" in this game that if these restrictions were not in this game would have been dead and buried many years ago. everyone likes to win and so nobody likes to lose. If ENY wasn't in place you would see one team end up with the majority of players crushing the other two teams as players would seek the team that "always wins" and with out the ENY restriction just run over the others. This would lead to people either quiting in frustration, or joining the winning team until there was only one team in essence and then they would quit because they were bored.

ENY ups the challenge when your team has better numbers, thats it. As for adjusting the numbers..... who knows whats best. HTC has a secret formula they use and it is locked away in the same type of safe the Colonel's recipe is in. Does it need adjusting? To me, I'd like to see it kick in harder, but that would kill those players in the Euro time zones due to their lower numbers. Maybe an adjustment like they made for the 2 arena system were they closed down the arenas and opened a single for that time. Tie a timer into the ENY percentage numbers so that once the numbers pick up it kicks in faster.

I fly the pony a lot. It's a plane that I like, and I like turning in it to surprise opponents. If ENY stops me from flying it, no big deal, I switch to another planes. HTC went through a lot of trouble to make a crap load of planes, I feel I should use as many as I can.   Then again I'm not stuck in a mold where I need the crutch of a certain plane. I think players should be forced out of their "comfort zones" as much as possible. When things become "easy" they also become "boring" if you can challenge your self by stepping out of your comfort zones then maybe the game should force you just for its own good health. Bored players leave, challenged and interested players don't.

[R 105]

 I fly the P-51-D a lot to pork ords because it can run fast and most times I am alone. I am mission oriented and there for the ords not to pad your dog fight score. The 51 fits the bill for that. I would fly it even if it was perked some. As for the 109K-4 and its usage. Seams like every third plane I see in the air is a K-4 and was surprised to see the usage chart as low as it was. I still think the K models ENY is too high and should be around 15.