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Offline Hajo

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Re: Me410
« Reply #90 on: July 19, 2012, 04:33:04 PM »
As I've posted in other posts about the 410.  Do some research.  The Luftwaffe pulled it from bomber interception
when long range escorts showed up.  The 210/410 combination was a failure by LW standards.  The LW considered
cancelling production of the BF110 until the 210/410 came into operation.  Their performance was so poor the LW
did not cancel 110 production and kept on building the 110.

This is the 410.....barely mediocre at best.  The only think it has a big guns.  If that is the case the Mossie clobbers the 410.
We have several twin engined aircraft here that are a great deal better.  And we had them before the 410 arrived.

This is becoming like fan voting for the all-star team.  Ya get what ya want but not the best.  And then are disappointed with
the result.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #91 on: July 19, 2012, 04:37:20 PM »
Im happy with the Me 410 as it adds another a/c for SEA setups. WW2 wasn't about just P-51s and Jets. That being said its LWA use is another matter for debate. Its still a good bomber killer and base strafer ect I can see it being used by some there. Its just not an uber dogfighter.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #92 on: July 19, 2012, 04:42:02 PM »
Quote from: Hajo on July 19, 2012, 04:33:04 PM
As I've posted in other posts about the 410.  Do some research.  The Luftwaffe pulled it from bomber interception
when long range escorts showed up.  The 210/410 combination was a failure by LW standards.  The LW considered
cancelling production of the BF110 until the 210/410 came into operation.  Their performance was so poor the LW
did not cancel 110 production and kept on building the 110.

This is the 410.....barely mediocre at best.  The only think it has a big guns.  If that is the case the Mossie clobbers the 410.
We have several twin engined aircraft here that are a great deal better.  And we had them before the 410 arrived.

This is becoming like fan voting for the all-star team.  Ya get what ya want but not the best.  And then are disappointed with
the result.

What a strange thing to post in a thread where most people seem to be happy with the plane, and the only whine I've seen was someone who wanted a Beaufighter instead...
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Re: Me410
« Reply #93 on: July 19, 2012, 04:54:25 PM »
Quote from: GScholz on July 19, 2012, 04:42:02 PM
What a strange thing to post in a thread where most people seem to be happy with the plane, and the only whine I've seen was someone who wanted a Beaufighter instead...

There have been a few vocal people in game that have were surprised the Me 410 wasn't the uber fighter they'd thought it be.  One player was very vocally upset that his Me 410 was out turned by a Spitfire and resorted to shouting the Luftwaffe had all the aces, etc.

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Re: Me410
« Reply #94 on: July 19, 2012, 04:55:44 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on July 19, 2012, 04:54:25 PM
One player was very vocally upset that his Me 410 was out turned by a Spitfire and resorted to shouting the Luftwaffe had all the aces, etc.


Now who could that have been?  :noid  :lol
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Re: Me410
« Reply #95 on: July 19, 2012, 04:58:23 PM »
"Vocal" people on 200? Naaaaaw, say it ain't true!  ;)

Still... Why bring it here?
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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: Me410
« Reply #96 on: July 19, 2012, 05:17:33 PM »
Quote from: Hajo on July 19, 2012, 04:33:04 PM
As I've posted in other posts about the 410.  Do some research.  The Luftwaffe pulled it from bomber interception
when long range escorts showed up.  The 210/410 combination was a failure by LW standards.  The LW considered
cancelling production of the BF110 until the 210/410 came into operation.  Their performance was so poor the LW
did not cancel 110 production and kept on building the 110.

This is the 410.....barely mediocre at best.  The only think it has a big guns.  If that is the case the Mossie clobbers the 410.
We have several twin engined aircraft here that are a great deal better.  And we had them before the 410 arrived.

This is becoming like fan voting for the all-star team.  Ya get what ya want but not the best.  And then are disappointed with
the result.

I dont find your post strange at all.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #97 on: July 19, 2012, 06:08:25 PM »
Got me really wondering now, how much was it speculated that the rotary rocket launcher would of weighed, loaded, had it entered production?...  :devil  maybe HiTech should model/include it, my bet is that more players wil kill themelves with it one way or another rather than score kills against others with it.

For what it is (a gun boat/barge) the 410 is a very well done addition.


Edit: and now that we have the glass-nosed 410, think how brutal it will be in a He111 if/when that day comes?.... :uhoh
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Re: Me410
« Reply #98 on: July 19, 2012, 06:20:49 PM »
Quote from: Ack-Ack on July 19, 2012, 04:54:25 PM
There have been a few vocal people in game that have were surprised the Me 410 wasn't the uber fighter they'd thought it be.  One player was very vocally upset that his Me 410 was out turned by a Spitfire and resorted to shouting the Luftwaffe had all the aces, etc.

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With respect Ack-Ack, Schlowy was clearly trolling.

I like the 410 - just plain like it.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #99 on: July 19, 2012, 06:30:02 PM »
Quote from: Scherf on July 19, 2012, 06:20:49 PM
With respect Ack-Ack, Schlowy was clearly trolling.

I like the 410 - just plain like it.

One would think he was but sadly, he wasn't just like his claims the Bf 109E rolls slower than a B-17 aren't a troll either.

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Re: Me410
« Reply #100 on: July 19, 2012, 06:41:02 PM »
So it does not make anybody else wonder how the hell an aircraft that weights more than other aircraft of similar class and while it is smaller i.e. more of its weight is divided into smaller area is also more fragile??

Has anybody ever lost the outer wing section of its wing? I always lose the whole wing if it is hit. Something's gotta be screwed in damage model.

I don't want it to be an uber ride and I don't have a problem it being a brick in maneuvers but I DO have problem with its damage model.

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Re: Me410
« Reply #101 on: July 19, 2012, 06:46:34 PM »
I flew the 410 last night for a sortie... Good ground attack, and anti-tank capability. Good outward vis... Flies like a bus, otherwise. For comparison, I then flew the Bf 110G-2 and the Mossie 6.... The Mossie was the better of the lot, with the 110 being next and the 410 close behind. I preferred the 110 over the 410, because it is better able to cope with enemy fighters.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #102 on: July 19, 2012, 06:57:13 PM »
Quote from: Charge on July 19, 2012, 06:41:02 PM
So it does not make anybody else wonder how the hell an aircraft that weights more than other aircraft of similar class and while it is smaller i.e. more of its weight is divided into smaller area is also more fragile??

Has anybody ever lost the outer wing section of its wing? I always lose the whole wing if it is hit. Something's gotta be screwed in damage model.

I don't want it to be an uber ride and I don't have a problem it being a brick in maneuvers but I DO have problem with its damage model.

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I lost both wings in one sortie.  One wing would have been enough to send a message but jeez.  OK, I get it.  I'm shot down.  :furious

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Re: Me410
« Reply #103 on: July 19, 2012, 07:11:36 PM »
Me 410 with drop tanks - ouch.
Only some rare and specifically modified aircraft had drop tanks and used explosive bolts to get rid of them in case they needed to. That wasn't a standard option.
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Re: Me410
« Reply #104 on: July 19, 2012, 07:30:02 PM »
Looks like the standard droptank setup to me, like on the 110.







110G setup for comparison:

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