Conditions for town resupply

[surfinn]

Ahh then you weren't watching when rook took a base next to the nits strats and pounded it down to 0 then. Ive never seen a country so beaten. Oh and while we were doing this the bish won the war. Now I ask ya, if industrial capability is such an issue now as it was in the war. Then shouldn't it be a auto win for the country that brings the other country's production capacity below 25% ?

[JimmyC]

hoard helps perhaps???

[Dimebag]

They stay down a lot longer than the hangars responsible for the C47 or the M3.

30 minutes isn't that long granted their strats are untouched

[bongboy1]

Why not just take out the VH and barracks at the bases nearby so the town under attack can't be resupplied?  Is it because, like bustr pointed out, requires a little bit more work on your end?

ack-ack

Those nearby bases are often 3 sectors away with multiple spawns into the base you're trying to take.

[Ack-Ack]

Those nearby bases are often 3 sectors away with multiple spawns into the base you're trying to take.

Then I guess a little coordination between players is in order then.  The problem is that people want to put in little effort and somehow expect a large return.

ack-ack

[Dimebag]

half the time its hard enough to find someone to bring troops much less finding 3 bodies to go on a SUCCESSFUL porking run

[Helm]

   Why even bother?  All that work for 25 perks?  They have made capturing bases way too hard.  I've been here long enough to remember when all you had to do was drop troops.  You did not even have to kill the town.  there was no ack.  It was 100 times more fun then this crap we have now.

  Why even bother?  Nobody wants to put this level of effort into resetting a map.  HTC might as well eliminate all the maps but one, because the only time you will see a map change is for skuzzy's  monthly reset.  Frankly I don't even try to help capture bases anymore.  In the early days a few dedicated players could capture a base, now you need the "KISS ARMY" to capture a base? ....and this is "fun" ?  Each year HTC makes it harder and harder.  What's the point Dale?? .....endless stalemares?

   I could understand this change if the maps were small, say 20 bases.  This change would make perfect sense, but with maps of 200+ bases it becomes almost pointless.

   Please don't misunderstand me.  I have little or no interest in "winning the war".  Nor could I care less about 25 perks you win for a reset, I have 15,000+ perks.  My concern is this: with these giant maps and difficult captures  maps are almost allways in a permanent stalemate.  HTC puts all this efffort into the maps, yet most of the time you fly from the same front line base ...to the same enemy front line base ...over and over ...and over.   I'd like the opportunity to fight in other areas of these maps and enjoy the scenery and the fresh tactical challenges from fighting in  different areas.

   fly to same base 3000 times? ............B O R I N G!!

   I have never understood what the big deal is about base captures anyway.  Why is it such a tragedy? ....easy bases capture moved you around on the map and made things a hell of a lot more interesting.  if my country gets reset? ...I don't lose any sleep over it ...I assure you

Dale dont forget the Sid Meir's ( misspelled name...designer of many classic PC games) ...design principle:   "When in doubt ...make it fun"

Helm ...out

[kvuo75]

   Nobody wants to put this level of effort into resetting a map. 

????

maps rarely last more than a day anymore..  most of the small maps are reset in hours.

[Shuffler]

Fights are fun.

[Rob52240]

The shade hunters were trying to sneak a base from us last night.  Jarbo and I saw what was happening and got some M3's with field supplies near the town and hid.  I came out of hiding to check the flag, the sun was shining through it making it appear to be white.  I said "I think the flag is white" As soon as Jarbo dropped his I see guns firing all over town, a vehicle exploded and the enemy plane circling above caught on fire.  It was funny seeing the proxies come in right after I hear "dropping supplies".

[ImADot]

I came out of hiding to check the flag, the sun was shining through it making it appear to be white.  I said "I think the flag is white"

Next time stay hidden and try this:

.dt f07flg

It will tell you the downtime of the flag. Either the flag is white (some absurdly large number of minutes remaining) or not white (all objects living).

[bozon]

The new system is good, but it needs one tweak as mentioned above:
"Town resupply needs to be dropped at the map room"

Hunting GVs from planes has been made much more difficult than before. It is also much more dangerous to the planes. So don't allow the M3 to drive between the trees, hide in some structure a mile away from town, wait for the attackers to waste their ords and then dropping the supplies - make it drive all the way into town.

[VonMessa]

See rule #4

[Lusche]

I enjoy watching the hordlings cry about how it is harder to horde a base now that town can be resupplied.

You are now doing the same thing that semp is rightfully being critizised for in the side switch thread.  


My personal experience as a defender (sad that one have to state such thigs), is that personally killed off several battles that would have been very intense in the past, especially at off hours. At that time the new resupply is incredibly powerful. CV attacking base, 5-8 attackers trying to overhwelm 3-4 defenders. Before the change, we defenders would have had a chance, but usually it would be a hard battle. Now, instead of rolling a fighter, a bomber to kill CV or at least a wirble to protect the maproom I simply ran a M-3.
With a relatively small population on, the City is usually at 100% (=30 minutes) and you have hardly the manpower to keep the enemy VH(s) at a remote base down or kill the M3s. Driving supps just near the town instead of fighting the enemy was a piece of cake.

Yes players do adapt. But they adapt the way we may wish. It's the nature of things that the simple way is preferred over the complex, and that means - more horde in shorter time. Overwhelm the enemy before he can resupply. As the time window for a capture has gotten smaller, the first strike has to become bigger and much mor substantially. It's not the first time we are experiencing this in AH.


Having to bring supps to the map room may not be a bad idea...

[VonMessa]

You are now doing the same thing that semp is rightfully being critizised for in the side switch thread.  


My personal experience as a defender (sad that one have to state such thigs), is that personally killed off several battles that would have been very intense in the past, especially at off hours. At that time the new resupply is incredibly powerful. CV attacking base, 5-8 attackers trying to overhwelm 3-4 defenders. Before the change, we defenders would have had a chance, but usually it would be a hard battle. Now, instead of rolling a fighter, a bomber to kill CV or at least a wirble to protect the maproom I simply ran a M-3.
With a relatively small population on, the City is usually at 100% (=30 minutes) and you have hardly the manpower to keep the enemy VH(s) at a remote base down or kill the M3s. Driving supps just near the town instead of fighting the enemy was a piece of cake.

Yes players do adapt. But they adapt the way we may wish. It's the nature of things that the simple way is preferred over the complex, and that means - more horde in shorter time. Overwhelm the enemy before he can resupply. As the time window for a capture has gotten smaller, the first strike has to become bigger and much mor substantially. It's not the first time we are experiencing this in AH.


Having to bring supps to the map room may not be a bad idea...

You are going to have to explain that one to me...

Hordes have always offered me much enjoyment in the way of offering me lots of targets without being required to travel far to shoot at the red guys.  Even better, now that it is harder for them to take the base if town is being resupplied.  hat means the base isn't rolled so quickly and the horde stays longer. , prolonging the target-rich environment.