Idiot pulls out in front of landing airplane

[pembquist]

I don't think the road is owned by the airport and it has been referred to as a private road over in the parallel thread. I imagine that the 100 bucks for a couple stop signs and maybe another 100 for low flying aircraft wasn't deemed worth it by who or whatever owns the road.

[Wolfala]

Well,

Can guarantee the liability limit of the van driver will be exceeded.

[B4Buster]

Well,

Can guarantee the liability limit of the van driver will be exceeded.

 

Hadn't even thought about that one yet. What a headache that will be.

[colmbo]

he is just a student and can't be expected to execute perfectly every time (nobody can).

Unless he wants to die he better do some of the basics right....like landing where you're supposed to on the runway.  That runway has a displaced threshold for a reason.

[colmbo]

I think criticism of the pilot for the accident is a little unfair. For one he is a student pilot, very inexperienced. For another any pilot is entitled to expect that the end of the runway is clear. The car driver is clearly at fault. It's not as if it wasn't signposted. They were extremely lucky, inches lower and everyone dies.

If the pilot had flown a normal approach to the correct touchdown point the accident would not have happened.  I never "expect" anything to be "good" while flying...I want to live a long life.

[CAP1]

If the pilot had flown a normal approach to the correct touchdown point the accident would not have happened.  I never "expect" anything to be "good" while flying...I want to live a long life.

 but add on top of that if the lady had stopped where/when she was supposed to stop..........

[Golfer]

When's the first time you trusted a woman in an SUV to do something right in a car?

Student Pilot made a mistake, the instructor didn't teach him correctly. The student is flying on his instructors ticket, there's no expectation for him to know what he needs to do if he's not trained correctly.

Kick the instructors bellybutton before you blame the soccer mom.

[bmwgs]

When's the first time you trusted a woman in an SUV to do something right in a car?

Student Pilot made a mistake, the instructor didn't teach him correctly. The student is flying on his instructors ticket, there's no expectation for him to know what he needs to do if he's not trained correctly.

Kick the instructors bellybutton before you blame the soccer mom.

Do you know this pilot and/or instructor?  I'm just curious how you know he was not properly instructed.  I guess all mistakes people make is because they were not given proper instructions. 

Fred

[B4Buster]

Unless he wants to die he better do some of the basics right....like landing where you're supposed to on the runway.  That runway has a displaced threshold for a reason.

agreed, which I mentioned in my second senctence.

Do you know this pilot and/or instructor?  I'm just curious how you know he was not properly instructed.  I guess all mistakes people make is because they were not given proper instructions. 

Fred

bmw - it is impossible to tell exactly what the instructor told/taught the student, but the fact that the student pilot didn't pay attention to the runway markings at his home airport, where he undoubtedly had 100+ landings is very telling.

[bmwgs]

agreed, which I mentioned in my second senctence.

bmw - it is impossible to tell exactly what the instructor told/taught the student, but the fact that the student pilot didn't pay attention to the runway markings at his home airport, where he undoubtedly had 100+ landings is very telling.

Buster, I am fairly certain you are of driving age, so someone instructed you how to operate a vehicle.  I am sure you were instructed that you do not run red lights, stop signs, or speed.  If you are like every other driver in the world, you have committed at least one of these infractions, or like me all three.  You were properly instructed not to do it, but yet you did, so is that the instructors fault.

I am not a pilot and I have never flown a plane outside of the cartoon world, but I will agree the pilot of that plane made a mistake.  I just can not automatically believe that it is also the instructors fault without some shred of evidence.  It may be a case where the pilot alone screwed up.  I just can not agree that the instructor was a fault based solely on the mistake of the student.  He was flying solo, so it is not like the instructor was sitting next to him.  Even if they were in radio contact, the instructor can not fly the plane from the tower.

My position is that it is far to early to to blame the instructor or make a blanket statement that the instructor was also at fault.

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Fred

[mbailey]

Hey Buster.......Is it common to have roads that close to the end of a runway? Just curious, as i cant wrap my head around the fact that a road would be put in such a stupid spot.......or a runway built that close to an active road?  (excluding Gibralter that is)

Is it a service road for the airport?

[Plawranc]

Im sorry.... But when driving, even if there are no markers, I look around when crossing traintracks, and would, naturally, check its clear before crossing a runway, specifically an ACTIVE runway...

The driver is the one at fault here.

[ImADot]

Driver wasn't crossing a runway, he was driving on a road near the end (but outside) of a runway. Big difference, but still a total lack of SA and common sense.

[whiteman]

she must have missed the class on defensive driving with air traffic.

[eagl]

Looked to me like the pilot had chopped the power a bit early looking for a brick 1 landing to show off for his family/friends.  The FAA ought to look into why he thought that was a good idea, since as a student he should receive airfield specific instruction for every field he flies to or from.  I wonder if the instructor's insurance is going to take a hit since the insurance company for the car is not going to want to pay for the aircraft damage and they may sue everyone who carries a policy just to try to spread the damage around.

If the student quits over this, then he's just not that interested in flying.  That's fine with me, some people just aren't meant to be pilots.