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Offline bacon8tr

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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2012, 01:37:02 PM »
That looked like some Area 51 thrust vectoring experiment.
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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2012, 02:53:24 PM »
I have some of the same issues with 190s mostly. Doesn't seem like they should even be flying. I thought you did the right thing by pulling up to reduce speed and then coming down on him, the bigger target.

I've always tried to fly smooth.

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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2012, 03:03:31 PM »
The REAL question here is who was flying the P-51B... because, as EVERYONE has been told you're just a pick and run ganger... and it looked like you were alone, using flaps...

So, who WAS that?!

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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2012, 03:12:43 PM »
That video cracks me up  :lol
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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2012, 04:08:17 PM »
I think you were brave. I would never fly after a guy with enemy rounds barely missing my plane for such a long time. :salute

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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2012, 04:19:08 PM »
I see this from knights so much I can tell you who the pilot is without seeing the AH film.

Thats not stirring but he did cost you a lot of ammo and he got you in a sticky position if nothing else. I usually tickle this fellow with a good burst and look for a different target. He usually heads right home and lands.
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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2012, 04:36:16 PM »
The REAL question here is who was flying the P-51B... because, as EVERYONE has been told you're just a pick and run ganger... and it looked like you were alone, using flaps...

So, who WAS that?!
True point. All i have seen from Pand was something entirely different and i did not like it, to phrase mildly.
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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2012, 04:46:55 PM »
definitely not stick stirring.......and there was no major negative G sustaining.....I would not doubt this can and was done in TRW....in a last ditch trying to save your bacon situation......

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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2012, 05:40:13 PM »
The Negative G's this guy was pulling could not be sustained by any person without going into a Red out.
Air Force/Navy pilots are trained to sustain up to Positive 7-9 G's generally, that is a lot and more than almost any untrained person could handle without blacking out.
Negative G's are a whole different ball game, I do not know as much but I can tell you at Negative 3-5 G's you will be in so much pain or going into Red Out, no way you would be able to do this time after time, even if you are a trained pilot.  he's pushing Negative 5+ G's easily by the looks of it.

Anyway, my point, it could definitely not be done IRL pushing that many Negative G's that many times in a row. Not to mention you'd probably puke doing all the rolls with it as well  :lol
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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2012, 06:48:43 PM »
Youtube's security certificate has expired.  It's asking me if I'd rather watch Carl Sagan's Cosmos.

Which is a pretty good program at least.
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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2012, 11:21:00 PM »
Could this all just be an artifact from the game's smoothing code?

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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2012, 02:14:36 AM »
Fast roll without losing altitude,specially at treetop level at 500mph+, together with unchallenged ability to lose speed in turns, forcing overshoot is best way of surviving in an FW A-series.
Some planes can dive with a A8, but most can not maneuver with them at 550mph+.

Sometimes I land more auger kills than gun kills, scraping off Pony's in the trees rolling @500 mph +
One short negative G while rolling vertical down, while gaining speed agianst  pesky K-4's is another favourite, when closer to the ground pull up, fully trimmed up and see the ex-pesky K-4 making a beautiful hole in the ground.


If you don't want to see 190s in AH, ask for reduction of roll rate of 190s, and you will see no 190-A series there any more.

They cant run from 51s, some 47s, yak's,  Lala's, f4u's and some spits, they  cant turn sustained with anything that resembles a fighter ( and many/most bombers (!),  reducing roll rate would be an effective 190-killer in the game. They cant zoom good , and climb sux 4k-8.5k.

I see more pull-pushers, and fish-floppers from late Spit-series planes, than I ever did from 190s in the MA.


I have some of the same issues with 190s mostly. Doesn't seem like they should even be flying. I thought you did the right thing by pulling up to reduce speed and then coming down on him, the bigger target.

I've always tried to fly smooth.


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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2012, 02:30:55 AM »
I still find that film amusing. 5 times I have watched it now  :D

I wonder if I have a Pandstang Defence Tactic film somewhere?  :P
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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2012, 02:33:53 AM »
I still find that film amusing. 5 times I have watched it now  :D


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Re: Run90 Defensive Tactic (Video!)
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2012, 06:08:24 AM »

I see more pull-pushers, and fish-floppers from late Spit-series planes, than I ever did from 190s in the MA.


The only time I got called out for "flippy floppy bs" was in a 190F-8... that thing turns into a wet cat at stall speed.

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