Mosq's Sustained Turn List 2012

[MOSQ]

In 2006 I published Mosq's Sustained Turn list the first time. Some folks found it helpful. The last couple of years I pretty much stopped playing AH, and now on coming back I see a lot of changes to the plane set so I thought I should update the list. I *think* I have all the new planes, plus I went thru the News section and anywhere HTC mentioned a flight modelling update I re-tested those planes. However I may have missed an announcement so if you come across a plane that you are sure has had it's fight model changed please post up here.
You can download the file as PDF here:

https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=4f7912f19b484b3b&id=4F7912F19B484B3B%21724

Hope this helps the new folks, and some of the old timers too.
 

[Lusche]

Can't download, it needs a log-in 

[MOSQ]

Can't download, it needs a log-in  

Hmm I click the link and it auto opens the file where you can use the PDF reader commands to save it. It's permissions are set to allow anyone to download it....


Is anyone else having a problem?

[edog1977]

I just tried it and it required a login.

[MOSQ]

Dang, Ok let's try this one:
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=4F7912F19B484B3B!725&authkey=!AH41epN2ncdKKcg

[Lusche]

Fantastic! 

[MOSQ]

Fantastic! 

So it's working now, the last link?

[Lusche]

Yes

[GScholz]

Me 410 turns better then a 109F with flaps up?

[MOSQ]

If the 109F has 75% fuel and the 410 is 25%.
That's one of the sources of "How did I get outturned by XXX plane!?!"

The 109F with 25% is up at #24....

[GScholz]

I'm still not convinced (no offense). The 410 turns worse with flaps? You haven't mistakenly swapped the with/without flaps numbers?

[MOSQ]

I'm still not convinced (no offense). The 410 turns worse with flaps? You haven't mistakenly swapped the with/without flaps numbers?

Don't think so. With Full Flaps it's a dog, look at the DPS. With 1 less notch it might be a lot better, some planes do that. Take it up and and record your flights. Do 3 turns at 500' after it settles down. Send me the footage and I'll be glad to modify the results.

[GScholz]

No no I believe you. It's pretty unbelievable though that the 410 should have 50% worse turning radius with flaps. Is there any other aircraft that behave this way?

[MOSQ]

No no I believe you. It's pretty unbelievable though that the 410 should have 50% worse turning radius with flaps. Is there any other aircraft that behave this way?

The P-38 used to, then HTC fixed the bug in the flaps, the 410 might have the same issue.

I'll retest it tonight to make sure.

[GScholz]

Awesome!