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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #75 on: December 31, 2012, 04:04:41 AM »
La7 is the 2nd most lethal prop plane in the MA.. Only the u4 outranks it IMO..
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #76 on: December 31, 2012, 04:22:35 AM »
La7 is the 2nd most lethal prop plane in the MA.. Only the u4 outranks it IMO..


In the reality of MA combat, the Tempest is way ahead of them in terms of lethality by the combination of insane speed and rapid firing Hispanos.
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #77 on: December 31, 2012, 04:33:57 AM »

In the reality of MA combat, the Tempest is way ahead of them in terms of lethality by the combination of insane speed and rapid firing Hispanos.

tempest only hope is to get away.. if it can..
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #78 on: December 31, 2012, 04:44:42 AM »
tempest only hope is to get away.. if it can..


We are not talking about a duel. The term was "lethality". The Tempset can fly at much higher speeds at the common fight altitudes and has much greater firepower, making it incredibly lethal. Going just a few k up, it's faster in MIL than the La- in wep even.
The Tempest is far more able to zip through any battle and blow it's victims out of the sky with a quick burst than both the La-7 and the F4U-4. No doubt, both of them would be better if it komes to a duel-like knife fight... but in the MA you can avoid that pretty much.
If we were looking for the best dogfighter, I would never had mentioned the Tempest, but in terms of true lethality in the MA environment, the Tempy is outclassing it's opposition by a huge margin.

There is a reason it's perked at 50 vs the F4U-4's 20 or the La-7's 0, and also why a Tempest creates more panic on local then any other plane but the 262.


(By the way, the all-year K/D of the Tempest vs La-7 is 4.35...)
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #79 on: December 31, 2012, 10:23:28 AM »

We are not talking about a duel. The term was "lethality". The Tempset can fly at much higher speeds at the common fight altitudes and has much greater firepower, making it incredibly lethal. Going just a few k up, it's faster in MIL than the La- in wep even.
The Tempest is far more able to zip through any battle and blow it's victims out of the sky with a quick burst than both the La-7 and the F4U-4. No doubt, both of them would be better if it komes to a duel-like knife fight... but in the MA you can avoid that pretty much.
If we were looking for the best dogfighter, I would never had mentioned the Tempest, but in terms of true lethality in the MA environment, the Tempy is outclassing it's opposition by a huge margin.

There is a reason it's perked at 50 vs the F4U-4's 20 or the La-7's 0, and also why a Tempest creates more panic on local then any other plane but the 262.


(By the way, the all-year K/D of the Tempest vs La-7 is 4.35...)

Let me help Kappa out if I may.  Lethality in the hands of a pilot....not lethality in the hands of the general AH public ie....hordling, altfairy, basevulching, picking, you get the idea.  It's also the easiest multi cannon bird to fly fast with which makes it an excellent noob-selection.  

Kappa was speaking about a/c performance flight characteristically speaking as in:  put 4 Hispanos on the -4 and the Tempest loses its shiny rape-monger luster :D
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #80 on: December 31, 2012, 08:04:09 PM »
Let me help Kappa out if I may.  Lethality in the hands of a pilot....not lethality in the hands of the general AH public ie....hordling, altfairy, basevulching, picking, you get the idea.  It's also the easiest multi cannon bird to fly fast with which makes it an excellent noob-selection.  

Kappa was speaking about a/c performance flight characteristically speaking as in:  put 4 Hispanos on the -4 and the Tempest loses its shiny rape-monger luster :D

thx.. was too tired to respond this morning.. Lusche and myself have different flying styles (not a bad thing) and both making points from the opposite corners of the same box 8)
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #81 on: December 31, 2012, 08:08:42 PM »


(By the way, the all-year K/D of the Tempest vs La-7 is 4.35...)

thats great and all.. but lets talk proper lethality.. compare k/t and total kills.. 8) 
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #82 on: December 31, 2012, 08:09:41 PM »
thx.. was too tired to respond this morning.. Lusche and myself have different flying styles (not a bad thing) and both making points from the opposite corners of the same box 8)

When I make general statements about a plane, I try to keep them entirely apart from my own playing style. I try to be objective instead of subjective and not making my points from a specific corner. :)
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #83 on: December 31, 2012, 08:11:55 PM »
thats great and all.. but lets talk proper lethality.. compare k/t and total kills.. 8)  

Total kills is not necessarily reflecting a individual plane's lethaility. If so, you could think the Me 163 ain't very lethal at all ;)
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #84 on: December 31, 2012, 08:16:30 PM »
When I make general statements about a plane, I try to keep them entirely apart from my own playing style. I try to be objective instead of subjective and not making my points from a specific corner. :)

ah... you mean like using your own flying style to compare the tempest to w/e plane? In fact you just did that.. How YOU fly the tempest.. Myself would not fly it in a manner dependent on its gun package and speed as you put it..

and if you want a competition to prove my point.. I'll bet I can land more kills in a la7 faster than you can in a tempest.. that would be a measure of lethality.. IMO.. as I state above..
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #85 on: December 31, 2012, 08:18:07 PM »
Total kills is not necessarily reflecting a individual plane's lethaility. If so, you could think the Me 163 ain't very lethal at all ;)

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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #86 on: January 01, 2013, 01:16:10 AM »
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The LA's are overmodeled

Oh well, that settles that. Past you not liking the Russians and having lots of books on the Luftwaffe is there maybe anything else we could look at past you listing some aces names to infer that the LA series is somehow not modelled right? please... :rolleyes:

As far as the LA-7 goes there are plenty of fighters that can beat it 1 vs 1.
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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #87 on: January 01, 2013, 01:26:27 AM »
Fly the mighty Spitfire.  :joystick:

I (and you can too) pwn LA7s daily, unless they run away and then are no threat anyway. :)

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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #88 on: January 01, 2013, 01:37:23 AM »
LA can fight a stall fight pretty well....
Against a TBM?

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Re: I hate the La7
« Reply #89 on: January 01, 2013, 11:32:44 AM »


As far as the LA-7 goes there are plenty of fighters that can beat it 1 vs 1.


Pffft......