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Offline Dago

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Re: Gun sales today...pretty amazing...
« Reply #120 on: December 21, 2012, 06:14:40 PM »
I don't get your logic.

You're not the only one.  Actually, when I read it I thought it was the dumbest analogy I have read in a long time.
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« Reply #121 on: December 21, 2012, 08:39:36 PM »
Can't wait for the president of the National Beer Association to hold a press conference explaining how since some already drive drunk, the roads would be safer if everybody would drive drunk!
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« Reply #122 on: December 21, 2012, 10:19:19 PM »
Well considering that Pierre of the NRA thinks it was fine that my kids were exposed to guns, but I clearly screwed up playing video games with them, I'm not sure logic is in real high supply right now.

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Re: Gun sales today...pretty amazing...
« Reply #123 on: December 21, 2012, 11:30:36 PM »
So its fine if kids are sensatized to violence to a certian extent, just as long as we take away weapons because a few people abuse them.

I don't blame xbox, or video games, or guns. I don't think theres nessecarilly anything to blame. Yeah, I guess you could blame the kid, but its a tad late for that to do much.

You could blame guns I guess, but thats the same stupid, bass-ackward logic that lead to prohibition.


Fact is that if someone wants to go kill people, they're gonna do it. Hell, the materials to make chlorine gas aren't too terribly hard to get. Would it have been better if the guy had gassed those people instead of shooting them? Or would people be freaking out and demanding we ban bleach?
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« Reply #124 on: December 21, 2012, 11:34:18 PM »
Well considering that Pierre of the NRA thinks it was fine that my kids were exposed to guns, but I clearly screwed up playing video games with them, I'm not sure logic is in real high supply right now.

Remember "X-Boxs don't kill people, people do!"

Exposing kids to guns and teaching them the responsibility of owning or handling a firearm will do them far more good than bad.  Shield them from firearms and see what happens not if but when they come in contact with one: the odds of them totally and completely disrespecting that responsibility will be lost.

Exposing them to the glorification of any violence as we see on CoD, BFx, or any other FPS and not taking the time to explain the ramifications of being able to "re-spawn" after getting killed (or killing) in a video game vs what reality is something not to be taken lightly.

If you or anyone else thinks that guns are able to pick themselves up and do evil then I'd like to know how so I can watch it sometime.  None of the firearms in my gun safe have ever killed anyone (safe for perhaps a very well worn Japanese Arisaka chambered in 6.5mm Jap built in 1932).  The fact that there are fewer guns per population and per household now than there were in 1900, the fact that there are far more laws restricting gun ownership now than there were 20 years ago, and the fact that it is harder to obtain a firearm today than it has ever been thanks to a NRA devised background check tells me one overlaying theme: it isn't the guns. The bad guys, the psychos, the religious zealots, and anyone else who wants to harm the masses will get the job done with or without the use of firearms (anyone remember a certain Tim McVeigh? Anyone?).  The best thing we can do is to stop them before they get their first shot off and that is done with secured entrances, security cameras, and the ability to stop the threat by equal means and if that means allowing the admin, the teachers, staff, or any other volunteer to arm themselves then so be it.

FWIW, back in 1991 when I was a jr in high school we had a project for speech class that entailed a "teaching how to" in front of the class.  Guess what I did??? I took a shotgun to school, with permission, and taught the class how to clean a shotgun.  Per the principle's request, I had to remove the firing pin and not bring any ammunition to school.  No problem.  The Remington Mod 11 (Browning Auto-5) stayed in the Mr. Hannah's office until class time and he brought it down to the classroom it the case. He walked in, handed it to me, then walked out.  I did my presentation (I earned a B), then walked the cased shotgun back down to his office. Why was it different THEN than NOW?  What has changed?  The root cause of our problems do not sit with an inanimate object.        
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Re: Gun sales today...pretty amazing...
« Reply #125 on: December 21, 2012, 11:38:36 PM »
Can't wait for the president of the National Beer Association to hold a press conference explaining how since some already drive drunk, the roads would be safer if everybody would drive drunk!

Ah, but you're assuming that all gun owners are shooting their firearms all the time at everyone else by using that analogy.  Not very accurate, nice try.  Back to the blackboard you go, and don't forget the chalk.  :aok

Owning a car is owning a firearm.  Driving drunk is using the firearm in an illegal manner.  Keep it real, homey. 
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Re: Gun sales today...pretty amazing...
« Reply #126 on: December 22, 2012, 12:41:02 AM »
what I find funny (in a sarcastic kind of way)  is how some call for teaching kids the proper responsible way to handle guns while at the same time post videos of you guys blowing up gas tanks or some other stupid non-sense.   I call it being a hypocrite but whatever  :bolt:.

as for the original post, I think the op was wondering why people panic and run to the store to stock up on ammo/guns as if they they had just stopped production, which only seems to increase the price, not like the ammo/guns wont be there a month from now when everybody forgot why they rushed to the store.


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Re: Gun sales today...pretty amazing...
« Reply #127 on: December 22, 2012, 01:10:07 AM »
It's Christmas guys, let's give Skuzzy a break on this one.

After christmas we can have a nice non-political thread where everyone can show off their range toys.
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Re: Gun sales today...pretty amazing...
« Reply #128 on: December 22, 2012, 05:17:23 AM »
Ironic isn't it that the only ones who are really going to benefit from this are the gun makers.  Panic buying, prices going through the roof etc.  Capitalism at its best and worst I guess.


So we have this evil shifty eyed "Gun maker" wearing those green spectacles sitting on a big pile of money? He spends the day in this great big office filled with 100 dollar bill counters and fly's around the country to all his store in a Lear jet. Probably has a yacht and a pool and all that? i mean there are no craftsmen or clerks or engineers or other laborer like us getting anything out of this? come on.

Do you see that saying its capitalism at its worst demeans us? That the people earning a living at this - might be "kind of" insulted by that. The ones who aren't on the dole don't yah know.

I don't see anything ironic here. Nor do the people that are frantically trying to acquire what is constitutionally their right to own. what sad and ironic is there is a panic, who is causing it, and the tactics they use to get their way.
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Re: Gun sales today...pretty amazing...
« Reply #129 on: December 22, 2012, 05:33:28 AM »
For my home I take my shotgun over anything else . Most of your shoots are going to be close range anyway so a shotgun is the way to go . With a rifle after you shoot a few rounds through it , it's going  to get hot and start shooting off anyway .

Do you have a rifle?

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« Reply #130 on: December 22, 2012, 05:39:22 AM »
   Frankly its nobody's business what or how much I want to buy. Without getting into the dreaded gun control issue, I recently was told by someone that when the 2nd was written, we all had muskets, so its outdated. I replied yes we did, but so did our potential enemies. What do they have today, and what should we have?

Excellent counter point! :cheers:

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« Reply #131 on: December 22, 2012, 05:41:51 AM »
Can't wait for the president of the National Beer Association to hold a press conference explaining how since some already drive drunk, the roads would be safer if everybody would drive drunk!

i don't see it. We had a tragedy its not humorous or something to make light of. 
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« Reply #132 on: December 22, 2012, 05:46:57 AM »
Well considering that Pierre of the NRA thinks it was fine that my kids were exposed to guns, but I clearly screwed up playing video games with them, I'm not sure logic is in real high supply right now.

Remember "X-Boxs don't kill people, people do!"

 :bhead :bhead His point was and you know it, is that schools are gun free zones. Perfect for the cowards who do mass shootings. He is saying that we need to value our children above the wrong headed politics of gun control and do something about it. In Israel the terrorist originally targeted schools. Israel rightly decided not to ban guns in schools, Israel armed their teachers. they aren't the easy targets they once were.

Everywhere that guns are banned is a potential shooting gallery for the sicko's and terrorists. The Aurora movie wack-job chose the 1 in 5 theater that banned CCWs in that area. Why wouldn't he? Going to one that allowed CCW would be like walking into a police station and opening fire. go chew on that.

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Re: Gun sales today...pretty amazing...
« Reply #134 on: December 22, 2012, 06:45:57 AM »
i don't see it. We had a tragedy its not humorous or something to make light of. 

I agree, however it is worth pointing out how absurd some of the responses to it have been. you could do this using reasoned arguments, or maybe with an angry rant ... I chose parody.
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