Author Topic: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception  (Read 7142 times)

Offline RedTop

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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2013, 07:02:55 PM »
Uh huh.  You keep on believing your self validating stuff.  Ponies are disliked for reasons that are just as valid.

Ponies are disliked...Tempest are disliked..190D9's are disliked...list goes on and on....

Didn't realise I was self validating.... :eek: Think I'll just step over here---> and keep quiet :bolt:
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2013, 07:11:04 PM »
I'd say that I'm a pretty good pony pilot. I would and have taken on many other planes in a turning fight. I would say I win 90% of the time. The only reason I don't engage into a turning fight often is that a second fighter (with E) is almost always nearby. Since the 51 is the plane to beat, it is very desirable. When the 51 is low and slow a second fighter will cut power and stay on the 51's six. The second fighter will then brag how good he/she is after killing the 51.

Driving a pony kind of reminds me of a friend who owned a Corvette. Every kid driving their mom's hand-me-down car wants to race a vet. I remember one time a 15-yearold beater Deville pulled next to him and gunned his engine signaling his desire to race when the streetlight turns green. What was really funny was the Deville had a freaken spare tire on the front axle. However, my friend didn’t bother racing the guy. :rofl
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2013, 07:14:04 PM »
I'd say that I'm a pretty good pony pilot. I would and have taken on many other planes in a turning fight. I would say I win 90% of the time. The only reason I don't engage into a turning fight often is that a second fighter (with E) is almost always nearby. Since the 51 is the plane to beat, it is very desirable. When the 51 is low and slow a second fighters will cut power and stay on the the 51's six. The second fighter will then brag how good he/she is after killing the 51.

:huh  You're not saying you can beat the mighty Spitfire 90% of the time are you?


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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2013, 07:27:07 PM »
:huh  You're not saying you can beat the mighty Spitfire 90% of the time are you?

No, I'd say I kill Spit's about 95% or better. However, a spit did get me the other night. I was on the deck going 300 mph. A Spit dived on my six and I did a barrel roll. After missing me I followed the guy in a vertical and took off a wing. A second later the CV ack towered my butt.

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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2013, 07:30:36 PM »
No, I'd say I kill Spit's about 95% or better. However, a spit did get me the other night. I was on the deck going 300 mph. A Spit dived on my six and I did a barrel roll. After missing me I followed the guy in a vertical and took off a wing. A second later the CV ack towered my butt.

:huh

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I will look for smoe in the MA. :old:
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2013, 07:32:25 PM »
:huh

This mighty Spitfire will pwn you with ease and substantial frequency. :old:
I will look for smoe in the MA. :old:
Let it be known. :old:
Sweet, you got some free kills coming your way smoe!
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2013, 07:37:37 PM »
Oldemon, BigR

The Spit Vs 51 talk is silly.  As the comment was made often back when it was real.  The 51 was doing over Berlin what the Spit drivers could only imagine doing.  Spits were short range interceptors.  Mustangs were long range escorts.

Why would a 51 driver play to a Spitfire's strengths?
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2013, 07:40:53 PM »
Oldemon, BigR

The Spit Vs 51 talk is silly.  As the comment was made often back when it was real.  The 51 was doing over Berlin what the Spit drivers could only imagine doing.  Spits were short range interceptors.  Mustangs were long range escorts.

Why would a 51 driver play to a Spitfire's strengths?

Because, as he says, 95% of the time he succeeds? :headscratch:


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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2013, 07:59:16 PM »
Oldemon, BigR

The Spit Vs 51 talk is silly.  As the comment was made often back when it was real.  The 51 was doing over Berlin what the Spit drivers could only imagine doing.  Spits were short range interceptors.  Mustangs were long range escorts.

Why would a 51 driver play to a Spitfire's strengths?
The quote I recall from an American Spit VIII pilot who converted to P-51s was something like "The P-51 won't do what the Spitfire will do, but it will do it over Berlin."
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2013, 08:04:26 PM »
Sweet, you got some free kills coming your way smoe!

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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2013, 08:06:03 PM »
To some (I'd even go as far as saying most), if you're not in a sustained turn fight, you're not fighting.


This might be the biggest misconception in the game.

There is a good deal more to air combat than turning your airplane.
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2013, 08:06:29 PM »
Hey Karnak....lets have lunch sometime....Your in Austin...
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2013, 08:30:07 PM »
Hey Karnak....lets have lunch sometime....Your in Austin...
That would be great.  What part of Austin are you in?
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2013, 08:34:13 PM »
That would be great.  What part of Austin are you in?
I live in Round Rock...work 3-11 at night right down town by the capital...sometime next week would be cool..depending on where your at...we could meet bout anywhere for some lunch!!
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Re: P-51 vs. Erroneous Perception
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2013, 08:55:39 PM »
I work in Manor and am moving to Hutto next month.  I work 08:00 to 19:00 Friday through Monday.  Generally available outside of those hours.
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