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Offline Nathan60

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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #195 on: June 10, 2013, 03:23:11 PM »
My argument is to not post photoshopped images as counter arguments when talking about game engines and their abilities. If this is too hard a concept for you to grasp then I can't help it. What made the argument extend any further than the 1 post was easyscor claiming (for some reason unknown) that the picture wasn't photoshopped even through a blind man could see the heavy blur added to the image.

Many other engines DO have motion blur / focus effects so posting a picture which has been post processed manually is kinda counterproductive.
So your nitpick a photo that has edges blurred,  ignoring Ranger's and Coombz's posts of what the engine is capable of? As has been discussed the engine is capable of more, if you want to take the time to make the maps go ahead. I invite anyone that wants a better looking terrain to take the time to make a terrain and submit it. HTC isn't EA they cant pump out new a/c, retexture a/c and create more terrain like they were, NOTHING is stopping you form  making your own terrain and submitting it for rotation.
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #196 on: June 10, 2013, 04:41:14 PM »
The whole argument is silly; the reality is that regardless of blur or no blur, with what I'm sure was an enormous effort, the current engine can produce terrain visuals that are representative of 2003. Updated versions of Il2FB and its later derivatives like Birds of Prey can produce truly stunning visuals.









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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #197 on: June 10, 2013, 05:53:41 PM »
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #198 on: June 10, 2013, 06:59:10 PM »
I don't get how you compare a large company like Ubisoft to HTC. Im sure if HTC had 15 offices the graphics would be updated and wed have  all the bells and whistles. On top of that Il-2 has many more people out the creating mods. Granted with the declining player base maybe it is time to do something new like selkl the AH license to SOE or EA well get much better graphics and a War Thunder flight model would you like that? Honestly how many employees do you think HTC has?
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #199 on: June 10, 2013, 07:14:00 PM »
I don't get how you compare a large company like Ubisoft to HTC. Im sure if HTC had 15 offices the graphics would be updated and wed have  all the bells and whistles. On top of that Il-2 has many more people out the creating mods. Granted with the declining player base maybe it is time to do something new like selkl the AH license to SOE or EA well get much better graphics and a War Thunder flight model would you like that? Honestly how many employees do you think HTC has?
Enough to update graphics just a tad every so often? I am not saying we need game breaking updates every 3 months, however, I think a moderate update every other year or so to the graphics would be justified.

I remember one very slight update to the graphics, but I think that was at least a year ago, and it wasn't anything special other than what appeared to be a few slight texture redesigns or something IIRC.

Wasn't the last major graphics update from AH1-AH2? (Actual question, I do not know)

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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #200 on: June 10, 2013, 07:51:38 PM »
I don't give a damn how pretty they look. I just want a realistic layout of terrain.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #201 on: June 10, 2013, 09:00:53 PM »
I don't get how you compare a large company like Ubisoft to HTC. Im sure if HTC had 15 offices the graphics would be updated and wed have  all the bells and whistles. On top of that Il-2 has many more people out the creating mods. Granted with the declining player base maybe it is time to do something new like selkl the AH license to SOE or EA well get much better graphics and a War Thunder flight model would you like that? Honestly how many employees do you think HTC has?

How many employees do they have? How many should they have? I don't know. Nor do I think it is relevant to the discussion. Fact is that AH is falling more and more behind.
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #202 on: June 10, 2013, 09:33:14 PM »
How many employees do they have? How many should they have? I don't know. Nor do I think it is relevant to the discussion. Fact is that AH is falling more and more behind.
Well do you want planes or updated terrain. Id take the terrain but lets be realistic how many would complain about getting terrain over a Beaufighter, but as I said nothing is stopping you from helping create a new terrain for the ma
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #203 on: June 10, 2013, 10:37:02 PM »
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don't get so excited Marine, try to stack up 300 players on the same terrain with one of those games and your system will choke.
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #204 on: June 10, 2013, 10:50:31 PM »
So your nitpick a photo that has edges blurred,  ignoring Ranger's and Coombz's posts of what the engine is capable of? As has been discussed the engine is capable of more, if you want to take the time to make the maps go ahead. I invite anyone that wants a better looking terrain to take the time to make a terrain and submit it. HTC isn't EA they cant pump out new a/c, retexture a/c and create more terrain like they were, NOTHING is stopping you form  making your own terrain and submitting it for rotation.

I nitpick when someone claims a picture is not photoshopped when it's CLEARLY PHOTOSHOPPED. Now leave this discussion already.
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #205 on: June 10, 2013, 10:53:44 PM »
don't get so excited Marine, try to stack up 300 players on the same terrain with one of those games and your system will choke.

No it won't... IIRC even AH2 has a limit of 48 simultaneous players on visible range, after that things start becoming invisible. You only need to render the stuff you see, and by seeing I mean visual range. No point rendering things which are too small or too far away for the players to notice anyway - it makes no difference how large the maps are in the end. The real challenge is to get the main server and the netcode not to choke under the player load.
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #206 on: June 10, 2013, 11:10:30 PM »
don't get so excited Marine, try to stack up 300 players on the same terrain with one of those games and your system will choke.

Again, nothing to do with visual quality.
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #207 on: June 11, 2013, 12:05:29 AM »
I nitpick when someone claims a picture is not photoshopped when it's CLEARLY PHOTOSHOPPED. Now leave this discussion already.
lol why are you so upset is this really that big of a deal in your life right now? How about YOu leave this discussion as you are clearly not adult enough for civil discourse. Your off on a crusade that no longer has anything o do with the discussion at hand.
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #208 on: June 11, 2013, 12:08:39 AM »
Again, nothing to do with visual quality.
The higher graphics and keeping track of 300 players and their damage can be taxing can they not?
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Re: Any rumors about improving the terrain?
« Reply #209 on: June 11, 2013, 12:18:19 AM »
The higher graphics and keeping track of 300 players and their damage can be taxing can they not?
The two are almost, maybe actually are, entirely separate things that do not interfere with one another.
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