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« Last Edit: January 21, 2013, 11:56:47 AM by W7LPNRICK »
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2013, 06:51:53 AM »
oh boy that cockpit was unbelievable narrow but if this is a wish request yes+1

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2013, 08:11:00 AM »
Another useless hangar queen. They added the Ju-87G, wonder how many people actually use it  :rolleyes:. This thing is worse than the 87G.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2013, 08:29:03 AM »
Another useless hangar queen. They added the Ju-87G, wonder how many people actually use it


Actually quite a few, it quickly superseded the Hurricane IID as the #2 cannon tankbuster. In total 'usage' it came out #62 out of 91 planes in last tour, in front of planes like 38G or Spitfire XiV.
There are not many planes left which would end up in the top 10 when introduced to Aces High...

That being said, I do see greater needs and gaps to fill, but if the gods would throw the Hs 129 at us I would most certartainly fly it, for I have a soft spot for it  :old:
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2013, 12:02:54 PM »
Another useless hangar queen.  :They added the Ju-87G, wonder how many people actually use it  :rolleyes:. This thing is worse than the 87G.

Nonsense.

And I love the 87G... It's a one shot killer against panzers, and  M4s and T34s are easy meat  as well. 4 or 5 gv kills in a sortie is possible. And in the month I've bagged me a p47 and a c205 as well. :aok

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2013, 01:07:59 PM »
Nonsense.

And I love the 87G... It's a one shot killer against panzers, and  M4s and T34s are easy meat  as well. 4 or 5 gv kills in a sortie is possible. And in the month I've bagged me a p47 and a c205 as well. :aok



how much I envy you. When im above icon range cant see them. When I see them I don’t have the time to shoot correctly. In other words no way I can kill a gv in the 87G.

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2013, 01:23:43 PM »
I love the ju87g.

Got a 2 kills in it during my first sortie.

First a ki67 at 20,000 feet I ran into while testing it's performance and then a p38 I found spawn bombing when I let down to land.

Sadly, if a kill comes easy the first time I fly a plane, I usually never fly it again.
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2013, 01:44:37 PM »
It's a B26 box destroyer par excellence.

I was tank busting in a G2 when the occasional 2k high B26 box suddenly showed up over the town. From 1k I led the box by 50Mil and tapped the trigger once sending out 2 Wolfram-Karbid solid core AP rounds. Two B26 went up in bright orange yellow blossoms of flame. The third was passing into 2k and out of range. Won a HO contest with a tiffy when we both opened at 1200yds.

The Mk101 carried by the He-129 fired a 30mm Wolfram-Karbid solid core AP round that can cut through M4 and early panzer.
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2013, 02:19:47 PM »
how much I envy you. When im above icon range cant see them. When I see them I don’t have the time to shoot correctly. In other words no way I can kill a gv in the 87G.

Lining up for guns is no different than with the IL2 or the Hurri... I just hold fire till inside of 200 to make sure the round are more  accurately on target... But unless the gv is moving, due to the new icon ranges, I always have to do a flyover ad pick up the GV itself by icon, continue on far enough to allow an immelman, all the while never taking eyes of target.. This should now put the still in view target right on my nose, me in a dive, and on a gun run at 1200-1500 and closing 30 degrees nose down. Plenty of time to zoom in on the gunsight and line up to hit the turret. With the icon ranges, its critical to never take your eyes of that speck on the ground that you want dead.
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2013, 02:25:45 PM »
Nonsense.

And I love the 87G... It's a one shot killer against panzers, and  M4s and T34s are easy meat  as well. 4 or 5 gv kills in a sortie is possible. And in the month I've bagged me a p47 and a c205 as well. :aok



You can do the same in an Il-2 with a bunch more ammo. Ju 87G has nothing over the Il-2 besides better visibility and a better penetrating gun, but what does it matter if the Il-2's 37mm can do the same.

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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2013, 02:34:04 PM »
You can do the same in an Il-2 with a bunch more ammo. Ju 87G has nothing over the Il-2 besides better visibility and a better penetrating gun, but what does it matter if the Il-2's 37mm can do the same.


You could say similar to a whole lot of planes in Aces High - that there are others that can do at least the same, or even better. Still, there are plenty of people that fly them. My main tank killer is the Hurri D, to which the Il-2 is also vastly superior, not speaking of any plane with plenty of ords like the A-20. In the end, the Ju-87 is not a 'hangar queen', it's seeing quite some use.

Or do you mean that HTC should only add planes that are substantially 'better' for their role than the ones we already have? No other considerations?


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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2013, 02:54:38 PM »
Never said it has to be "substantially better". Just offer something new. What can the Hs129 offer over the Ju87G , Hurri2D or Il-2?


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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2013, 04:08:59 PM »
A gun that size will only get us into trouble  :old:
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Re: Henschel 129
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2013, 04:43:10 PM »
Never said it has to be "substantially better". Just offer something new. What can the Hs129 offer over the Ju87G , Hurri2D or Il-2?

There was a 110C version with the Mk101 pod under the fuslage. But, for tank busters. You do know we have about run the gamut of purpose built ww2 gun platform tank busters? The Hs129 is the last unless Hitech OK's the IL10 and it only carried 23mm main guns relying on bombs for tanks. It's strength was it's improved speed and manuverability in WW2 terms over the IL2.
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